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[–] [email protected] 151 points 1 day ago (48 children)

Even though most of the comments here point out the obvious that phones are a risk, this kind of journalism is still important for spreading awareness and documentation of illegal surveillance for the record

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (47 children)

Yeah lemmy is mostly a left echo chamber, which is generally a net positive. But someone like my cousin who still gets their news from Facebook but might want to protest now they are thinking about their views would benefit from this journalism

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (46 children)

Eh, it's a center-left chamber at best. As evidenced by the extreme reaction to the far-left echo chambers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If this were a lefty echo chamber people wouldn't hate .ml but they do.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Idolizing authoritarian governments isn't "left" no matter how much they might think it is.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Anarchism isn't the only way to be a leftist.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's an awful lot of space between authoritarianism and anarchism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There sure is, including "vanguardism" which was what many conflate with totalitarianism because of how the Cold War shook out. Really, it was the success of anti-Communist propaganda in the Red Scares that has colored so much of our assumptions and talking points as well as the unbridled might of the American military to suppress and punish any nation that tried something other than subservience.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In what way would you classify the Chinese or Russian governments that these tankies support "communist?" That's like believing that Nazis were a socialist party simply because that word is in the name.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Well that's easy, I don't. Looking at the actions of Putin or Xi Jinping and saying "this is a communist state that I fully endorse" doesn't make sense to me. But I think there's a lot of people that look at those countries through the historical lens and resonate with the aspirations and ideals of Marx and Lenin and other political thinkers of the era and get wrapped up in the association. And America has made it really easy to bash America, that tends to land you among modern and historical rivals.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You ignore 50% of the political compass here - authoritarianism sucks just as much as fascism or unbridled capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

At the extreme, sure. Authority/Anarchy isn't a binary selection. (Fascism is an authoritarian position, specifically it's a right-nationalist movement centered on cultural identity)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Pretty sure the one thing to say about fascism besides it being authoritarian is that it wants corporate control. Mussolini was debating calling it Corporatism.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And that is exactly the situation in Russia: it's an

  • right-nationalist ("rescuing" suppressed people from the evil Ukraine - that one is super ironic because it's exactly the same argumentation Germany used with the Sudetendeutsche)
  • authoritarian (arrests for holding up empty pieces of paper, drafting for the war - but only in the poor areas far away from Moscow) regime
  • centered on cultural identity (anti-gay laws, "restoring the CCCP", persisting propaganda comparing the Ukraine war with WW2, "we have to defend ourselves from NATO)

It's pretty late, so i don't repeat the exercise for China or bring up more examples - i'm pretty sure that if you try to counter my points someone else will give you more examples.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

At no point in here have I said that Russia isn't a fascist state. It checks all the boxes: violent, authoritarian, nationalist, suppressing minorities and marginalized groups, single party, lots of corruption. You're confusing my Communist sympathies with uncritical support for the modern regime dressed in red.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If .ml were a lefty echo chamber people wouldn't hate hexbear, but they do.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Hexbear is specifically the shitpost refuge of displaced terminally-online /r/chapotraphouse diaspora and it's hard to parse the layers of irony and in-joke and I'm not invested enough in that community to try and fairly represent it here. I'm not surprised that people have an aversion to it but the amount of space it takes up in some people's head here is bonkers. The goals and culture are very different than .ml.

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