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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Where i live, municipal roads are maintained by the city. Funded by property taxes.

The vast majority of fuel taxes are collected by the federal gov't and provinces. There is nothing that goes directly to fund roads. This is such a fundamental piece of misinformation by drivers in canada.

Anyway, back to the point about city roads (everything other than highways).

I contribute the same amount to road maintenance as my neighbor. I have no car. Neighbor has a giant SUV that makes a ton of wear and tear on the roads, and contributes to city gridlock.

Do drivers think the $50 they pay for street parking permit comes even CLOSE to the value of the real estate they take up 24/7?

Who do you think is subsidizing who here? I walk and bike "for free"... And drivers frame it as us who are freeloaders?

Despite your support for pedestrians, framing them as getting shit for free is inaccurate (at least in canada. I know the article is about AUS)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Is pretty similar in Australia. Registration isn't a road use fee, it's a deadly weapon use fee, a large part of which is compulsory third party insurance, but the average driver thinks they're 'paying their way' with it. It's also a state fee, while most of the roads we drive on day to day are built and maintained by local councils, which everyone pays for via property rates regardless of choice of transport.

We're also grappling with the increasing popularity of electric vehicles and the loss of fuel excise revenue from that, and how to recoup that from ev owners, which they don't like.

Even so, car driving is still the most heavily subsidised form of transport around.