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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

We absolutely do apply these to people. Kevin Spacey? Bill Cosby? Jeffrey Epstein? Jared Fogle? Joe Paterno? Louis CK? Chris Brown? P. Diddy? Harvey Weinstein? OJ Simpson?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Flip side, the guy that killed Hitler also caused the deaths of millions of people all over the world including approximately 6,000,000 jews. Like, his whole thing ended on a high note. Does that invalidate all of the bad beforehand?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Nah, you don’t get credit for suicide.

But to your broader point, it takes a lot of work to right something that’s bad. Someone who has a troubled youth but does their time and spends years rehabilitating their image may be remembered for their later years, while someone who is a terrible person and then says something nice on their deathbed is likely to only be remembered for the bad.

Tying back to the shower thought, a show can start out bad and get good (Star Trek TNG, Parks and Recreation,) but a show whose only good episode is the finale is unlikely to be remembered fondly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

What if your achievements are mediocre and your views conform to the most popular, for your whole life.

Is that worthy of damnation?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

This list is irrelevant. Most of these people’s lives didn’t end with their major controversies as the comic references.