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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Here in the US, we only have downward class mobility, unless you are very, very clever, and continuously lucky, continuously reinvesting those gains from your cleverness into social and financial capital without making any ‘bad investments’, or ever having any sudden medical or financial disaster happen to you.

The studies you cite in your second comment don't support this. They show less class mobility in both directions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

My... second comment?

What does that mean?

My second reply to you?

My second reply in this whole thread?

If you're talking about the thing I most recently linked from Cambridge...

... 2 of 3 of those links were not even academic studies, just amalgamated data sets.

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Again, you're not getting the basic concept.

How many people are upwardly or downwardly mobile... is not the same thing as which kind of people are downward or upwardly mobile, what factors play into that to what degree.

The Cambridge study mentions the former and proposes an explanation for this.

The 2016 study looks at the latter and attempts to explain that.

I am saying that, of that lower upward and downward mobility in the US from the Cambridge study... the only people who can move up are exceptionally smart, and the only people that move down are exceptionally dumb.

Whereas in the EU, you do not need to be as extremely smart or dumb to move up or down socially, thus it occurs more often.

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I am sorry, but again, you clearly do not understand statistics to have a meaningful discussion on this, please, I am not trying to merely insult you, please actually learn statistics so that you can actually have a useful opinion on this topic that you clearly care about.