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I said "Don't go to authoritarian countries" not "Don't go to any country that conducts mass surveillance". Since every country does mass surveillance these days, the only practical thing to do is avoid those that punish you for you speech, hence China, Russia, USA (a lot more places on the list, but these are the big 3 No-Go Zones)
And you said it on a post about China spying on its citizens. I didn't bring up an unrelated fact or something.
I struggle to think how any nation that conducts mass surveillance on that level is not authoritarian, nor how like. A country could conduct mass surveillance and just do nothing with that information? Like its not like the UK, for example, is just spying on its citizens just for fun. Mass surveillance has an intention of manipulation behind it. If it was of no consequence they wouldn't do it.
That's why the example of the JD Vance meme, while absolutely horrifying, just seems like a strange place to draw the line and not like. Drawing it at mass surveillance in the first place. America should already have been included in "Don't go to authoritarian countries" once it came out they were conducting surveillance in this way, which was long before we both were born (most likely, idk how old you are).