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Trump says he hasn't considered pardoning Maxwell, but is "allowed" to. And everyone should look at Clinton instead (www.independent.co.uk)

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Sorry again for changing the headline but wanted the interesting part out again. Full video in the story.

OG headline: ‘I never went to that island’: Trump says of Epstein’s underage getaway and tells reporters to talk about Bill Clinton

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[-] [email protected] 43 points 2 days ago

So the obvious fix is that they're going to meet with Maxwell and secure her false testimony in exchange for a pardon, but at this point, no one's going to believe her if she says Trump was never involved. If she's smart, and I hope she is, she realizes that a pardon with Trump still in power is worthless. There's no way they'd let a loose end like her live out her days, too much of a risk. In that case the best option would be to play along and act like that's what you're going to do, get in the hot seat in front of Congress, swear on a book, then tell the absolute uncut truth about EVERYTHING that Trump, and any other rich politicians, then explain that her life is in danger and that Trump wants her dead because of what she knows, and that she has even more info.

Drop that fucking bombshell in front of Congress and the whole world, and she may actually come out of things a free woman who's somewhat redeemed herself, and completely fucked over a lot of shitty human beings. If she plays ball with Trump, no one will believe her, and she'll just end up suicided in a few months. I'm sure she's well aware of the likely scenarios. You can't run and hide from a psychopath who's in charge of the best military and equipment in the world. You have to kill the king in front of his own court.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

no one’s going to believe her

Give the Wingnut Wurlitzer a few weeks to work the crowd.

Plenty of people scoffed at QAnon and the MIA/POW guys or Sovereign Citizens or Scientologists in the beginning. But enough time and memes and AM Radio Heads screaming at their audiences. Now its just a big part of the received wisdom of the crowd. In the wrong group, you're weird if you don't believe their dogma.

If she plays ball with Trump, no one will believe her, and she’ll just end up suicided in a few months.

If she plays ball with Trump, a bunch of the WSJ Trump-Epstein articles go away and we get back to calling Columbia students antisemitic for protesting genocide.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Wait, was the POW/MIA thing some kind of conspiracy? My dad always flew one of those when I was a kid. He was also a card carrying NRA member so it wouldn’t be that shocking.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Wait, was the POW/MIA thing some kind of conspiracy?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_POW/MIA_issue

Considerable speculation and investigation have been devoted to a hypothesis that a significant number of missing U.S. service members from the Vietnam War were captured as prisoners of war by communist forces and kept as live prisoners after U.S. involvement in the war concluded in 1973. A vocal group of POW/MIA activists has maintained that there has been a concerted conspiracy by the Vietnamese and U.S. governments since then to hide the existence of these prisoners. The U.S. government has steadfastly denied that prisoners were left behind or that any effort has been made to cover up their existence. Popular culture has reflected the "live prisoners" theory, such as in the 1985 film Rambo: First Blood Part II. Several congressional investigations have looked into the issue, culminating with the largest and most thorough, the United States Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs of 1991–93, which found "no compelling evidence that proves that any American remains alive in captivity in Southeast Asia."

It was Ross Perot's flagship issue during the early 80s

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