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The "enshittification" continues
Matrix has always been a great alternative. Any service that is owned by a corporation will eventually be monetized. I never liked discord in the first place.
Matrix rules, but I can’t get my friends to leave Discord because that’s where all their friends are, they run servers, etc. it sucks.
The trick is to not have friends sucka
Matrix won't seem to let me on via my vpn so I can't even download the client on my computer. Makes it hard to see what the fuss is about.
Idk what I did wrong both times I tried before, but sites would not load. Today, I got to the search for homeservers and was able to sign up.
Which client? There's a lot more than Element, including clients like Nheko and Cinny.
I think it was element, but some more searching got me on a server. Now to find rooms I guess.
That's great! Hope you have a great time on Matrix. c:
this feels like back in 2015 when I was trying to get all my friends to go from TeamSpeak to Discord because it had Text & Media Channels and you didn't have to pay for the server
I have that too, but you have to be admin to be able to do that, and I didn't figure out how to connect the 1-1 chats in Matrix yet.
I have it set up with rooms where several people are in but have no idea how to set it up in 1-1 rooms.
Oh that sounds much better, I'll try it.
I'm using https://www.t2host.io/discord/ because I thought it'd be easier to use than hosting it myself.
It's probably fine, but I recommend never using tools like t2host.io. If anything happens to them, the credentials of thousands of users could be exposed, if you self host your own bridge the risks are lower, as someone would have to target YOU directly and hack YOUR server directly to get the credentials.
I'm loving Matrix.
I really need to get on Matrix, but I haven't put the time to learn it.
The Element app for it works pretty well. There are some edges to smooth, but it functions.
And if Element isn't to your tastes (like it wasn't for me), there are other clients to choose from. I use Nheko on PC and FluffyChat on my phone.
Oh cool! Thanks for the heads up on FluffyChat!
Revolt.chat is far nicer than Matrix usability-wise
What's to stop Revolt from becoming the next Discord?
Edit: I just logged into my account to see that Revolt had removed a "server" for breaking foreign (unjust) laws. That seems to go against everything the fediverse stands for.
How can revolt "remove" a server since you can connect to any custom hosted server? It's like saying lemmy removed an instance.
And besides, I'm pretty sure that is something that federated instances will have to worry about too, you might not care about your local laws but the ISP or hosting provider of your server where possibly illegal data is, will care.
No it isn't. The default is to be hosted on Revolt servers. I created a "server" and I didn't set up any kind of server, so it's not running on my server. I don't really know all the technical details, I just signed in and saw a message that said the "server" was removed.
Ah I see, so kinda like having a community on kbin.social removed. I mean that makes sense then, the admin and owner of the server can decide if he doesn't want something there, its his server (or in this case, revolts)
If this is an isolated issue I don't mind.
@RosalynKirk
1.) because Revolt isn't trying to do federation. It's community driven open-source project not backed by a company.
2.) you can easily self-host a Revolt server. Then you can make your own rules.
Not everything has to be federated
...is Discord trying to do federation? I'm confused.
Someone is in charge of Revolt, doesn't matter if it's a company or someone else. Someone is in charge of the servers. What's stopping them from ultimately selling the company? Reddit didn't start out as a corporation. Nor did WhatsApp, but after creating a trusted userbase they were sold off to Facebook to be exploited for data.
IT people love to talk about how "easy" it is to create and run your own server, but this is simply not true and they just lack awareness.
bad idea when revolt exists and is basically exactly the same software but open source and self hosted
Second this. Revolt looks exactly like Discord except it's open source and privacy focused.
https://revolt.chat