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    I HATE electron (lemmy.ohaa.xyz)
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    [–] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    Not very found of them either but it's hard to do without them, matter wise.

    [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    it’s hard to do without them

    Just load the wrapped website in a browser.

    [–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Or even better, encourage native apps.

    [–] 3laws@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Or even better, steal their source code. 😈

    [–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago

    That's not better at all.

    [–] BlueBockser@programming.dev -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    You mean native Windows and macOS apps? Because that's what you'll get, mostly.

    [–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

    Or Linux, yes.

    [–] ayaya@lemdro.id 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    That works for some apps but not anything that needs access to the filesystem and/or devices. Things like VSCode or mod managers, etc.

    [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    That works for some apps but not anything that needs access to the filesystem and/or devices.

    Granting some application with a bundled ancient and insecure Electron build is insanity.

    Things like VSCode

    Luckily there are plenty of native source code editors out there, for example Kate.

    [–] ayaya@lemdro.id 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

    Granting some application with a bundled ancient and insecure Electron build is insanity.

    Granting some application with a bundled ancient and insecure library of any kind is bad. That is not a problem exclusive to Electron it applies to static builds of any application ever made.

    Luckily there are plenty of native source code editors out there, for example Kate.

    Okay but that's not the point. You said, "Just load the wrapped website in a browser." Some apps won't function like that. The fact that alternatives exist is irrelevant to what I replied to.

    [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

    Okay but that’s not the point. You said, β€œJust load the wrapped website in a browser.”

    I replied to "it’s hard to do without them". So yeah, opening wrapped websites in a browser for most Electron apps and using native alternatives for the rest is totally feasible and absolutely not beside the point.

    [–] ayaya@lemdro.id 2 points 2 years ago

    Yeah, it's feasible to do that. And? My point was that you can't just rip out the web portion of an app and always expect it to work in a browser. That's it. What you said is irrelevant in the sense that it has no effect on whether the web portion can run in a browser or not.

    [–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    You're aware that Electron app have access to much more stuff than what you can do in a browser? Like, important, functional stuff?

    Getting really tired of "this is just a website" approach. It's starting to feel like /r/programmerhumor here.

    [–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 1 points 2 years ago

    just because electron apps have access to system features that browsers restrict access to for security reasons doesn't mean they're not websites in a trenchcoat

    [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

    Are you aware that a huge chunk, most likely the vast majority, of Electron apps don't use all that and are just wrapped web sites?

    [–] inge@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    a huge chunk, most likely the vast majority, of Electron apps [...] are just wrapped web sites

    [citation needed]

    [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
    [–] BlueBockser@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

    If the question was "how many repositories on GitHub mention the word electron", your answer would be correct. As it stands, citation is still very much needed.

    [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    If the question was β€œhow many repositories on GitHub mention the word electron”, your answer would be correct. As it stands, citation is still very much needed.

    That is a valid citation. You can count yourself how many of those repositories are just for wrapping specific websites by random people. If you think I'm wrong, put your money where your mouth is and provide a citation yourself.

    [–] BlueBockser@programming.dev -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    The cited source does not prove your point, so it is not a valid source. If you make a statement, you go prove it. Until you do, I'm gonna assume it to be false.

    [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

    The cited source does not prove your point, so it is not a valid source.

    Your laziness to count repos is not my fault. 🀷

    If you make a statement, you go prove it. Until you do, I’m gonna assume it to be false.

    OK, then I'm continuing to assume your statements are false because you can't even be bothered to provide a citation why mine is not valid. Bye then.

    [–] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

    I guess my pun was lost on your computer mind too, I'll go back talking to my physics pals

    [–] jabberati@social.anoxinon.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    @HenriVolney @Oha I don't use a single Electron app currently. I might consider VS Code though.

    [–] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I guess my pun got lost in everybody's logics. Poor me, unable to connect with my fellow lemmys.