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[–] Heresy_generator@kbin.social 193 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

“I note the senator from Kentucky leaving the floor without justification or any rationale for the action he has just taken. That is really remarkable -- that a senator blocking a treaty that is supported by the overwhelming number, perhaps 98 at least of his colleagues, would come to the floor and object and walk away…The only conclusion you can draw when he walks away is he has no argument to be made.

He has no justification for his objection to having a small nation be part of NATO that is under assault from the Russians. So, I repeat again, the senator from Kentucky is now working for Vladimir Putin.”

~ Sen. John McCain calling Rand Paul out for what he is in 2017

[–] Binthinkin@kbin.social 45 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You better stop that! Rand Paul didn’t go to Moscow to meet his handlers on July 4th, 2018 to hand deliver a message from Trump!

[–] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Not on July 4th like the other Republicans, but it was later that Summer.

[–] thesprongler@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Was McCain the last decent Republican? I didn't agree with any of his politics but at least he was a decent enough man.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He wasn't really decent. But he sadly was the gold standard for most of the last 20 years at least. And even then he helped bring about the plague of spiteful stupid that is Palin trump et all. You can say a ton of bad things about John McCain. But somehow Republicans at large still manage to be so, so much worse.

[–] Kimano@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I think what it comes down to for me personally about McCain is that even though I disagreed with a lot of his politics, I do genuinely believe he cared about the country and the people in it, and generally speaking he did what he honestly thought was best for them.

We can criticize the relative purity of every politician until we're blue in the face, but honestly the one overriding characteristic I think it's fair to demand of every elected official is that they're honestly working in good faith for the betterment of the country. As long as that's true I have no deep-seated issue with them.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

He pulled plenty of his own questionable shit. He was a Republican, after all.

[–] Bridger@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

az resident here. McCain was a mixed bag. he was deeply racist against native Americans.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Him, Kerry, and Nuland were the ones that set the stage for Ukraine to get invaded, so no he wasn't decent.