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the API changes occur tomorrow, gentlemen, it's been an honor (inb4 Lemmy completely crashes)
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this post was submitted on 30 Jun 2023
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I think a lot of moderators are just going to back down and return to business-as-usual from tomorrow. Reddit will suffer as a business but this isn't going to downright kill the site. Unlike say... Tumblr or OnlyFans, Reddit has a far more diverse clientele and many of them couldn't give a shit about third-party apps.
These half-arsed protests staged after the 14th June have told me that most of Reddit's mods are fucking cowards who are more afraid of losing their status as internet janitors than all the third-party apps.
Reddit's moderators could have easily brought the site to its knees if they just collectively stopped enforcing rules (including site-wide ones), removed Automoderator, unbanned everybody, then told the community to just go nuts.
The mods of /r/interestingasfuck had the right idea by encouraging users to post NSFW content, since this would have chased away advertisers in droves.
I mean the whole "sexy pics of John Oliver" protest that /r/pics had isn't going to chase away advertisers and was something that Spez could easily ignore, but having your content displayed alongside a flood of explicit pornographic images definitely will.
I'd argue it will become like Facebook, with the younger and more intelligent crowd leaving the site.
Excuse me! I'm older and more intelligent, thank you very much.
I'm on the older side, can't comment anything about the intelligent part.
Visiting Reddit now just feels like watching teenagers raging against bots. Like YouTube on steroids. You can't convince me anyone there is older than, being generous, 25.
Older-than-me-people (50+) are still playing Candy Crutch on Facebook.
It was actually the olds that left first, the ones who remember what the internet was like before corporations came in and dominated everything.
Medium old. Actual old people make Facebook what it is.
I'd argue that you're right, and that it has already happened. If the bootlicking crowd on Reddit is actually organic users hearing a call to action to start commenting after months and years of inactivity, that is. Reddit is known to operate large networks of sock puppet accounts for fake engagement and narrative control (per Venture Beat's reporting, which quotes an admission from Huffman).
Speaking of bootlickers, the last couple of days I've seen endless posts from "users" saying no one actually cares, protests failed, protesters are just trying to defend the profits of third party apps etc. Smells of copypasta and astroturfing.
Plausible. With only a fraction of Reddit's supposed size, Lenny+kbin are already nearing parity in quality of discourse.
The front page has gotten worse and worse over the last few weeks. Posts are just filled with Top Level spam comments with no replies. There has to be some kind of coordinated effort by the admins to make it look like the site is still doing fine.
The protest wasn't successful, but it's made enough people think twice about their reddit usage that it did something. I think a lot of the mods thought thought that reddit would cave, and now they haven't they're facing the destruction of what many of them have built from next to nothing (Mostly mid size subreddits) they're not prepared to nuke it all.
Why would they continue work on a site where in reality they have zero control.
Up until now, they probably thought they had, but now it's clear they don't.
It now turns out, that mods can be overruled and even excluded from the community they started, for little to no reason.
The mods would need to have some actual conviction instead of being selfish losers for this to happen.
All they care about is their own modding, tools, power, etc
As soon as it looked like they might lose their mod powers they caved.