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‘It’s not you, it’s me’ is the gist of college student qualms with dating apps. Hook-up culture declines while young people search for genuine connection.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (4 children)

So, how should people find mates? Obviously these stupid apps don't work and the chance encounter system we use in western societies don't, and neither do the marriage-as-transaction systems societies used centuries ago, or the subjugation of any one gender. So how should we ensure most people who want a mate get one?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago (6 children)

First thing to do is to not use neckbeardy scientific language like 'find a mate'. It makes me think of the way ferengi say 'Female'. It comes off as very creepy and lecherous.

Go do things you enjoy doing. Find local groups or hobby/card/game shops with events. Get to know people. Become a known person. And be yourself. Pretending to be anything or anyone you aren't will always backfire in a real relationship.

The big thing is to never go out with the goal of hooking up or finding someone. It adds an extra layer of weirdness if you do meet someone, and a massive extra disappointment every time you don't. Just be friendly and casual. Things will fall into place.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I assumed they were Australian.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Pirate? Arrrrrrr

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

I've only ever met people online.

And it's allowed me to be the depraved slut I am today.

Let the squares go do square things.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I found things worked out best when I stopped trying to specifically meet someone for the purpose of dating and just started going out and doing stuff I enjoyed with the potential of meeting someone (i.e. not sitting at home playing video games). There was a neighborhood pub I went to when I just wanted to get out of the apt, I was a member of a hiking club that had a cabin, I did stuff solo, etc. Once I stopped trying so hard I actually met more people.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just wanted to comment that this advice will likely minimize your chances of finding someone.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Go out and do things you enjoy and develop actual connections" is bad advice?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

pursuing your goal while acting like you are not pursuing it is counterproductive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Jesus fuck that's completely misinterpeting what I said. I said DON'T go trying to hook up. Forget that goal entirely. If all you want is to fuck go to the bunny ranch in Reno.

If you actually want a relationship, a genuine connection, Go to meet FRIENDS. If you're an actually likeable person people will want to be around you and be with you. But this neckbeard incel attitude is incredibly off-putting, and it makes nobody want to be around you. It's all self-fulfilling prophecy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I say that unless you never go out and have no friends friends and no hobbies that's going to be a massive waste of time. You should let the other person know about your interest in some way and see if they are interested as well. if the best way to find someone is to do what you're saying there wouldn't be a reason for dating apps in the first place.

EDIT: I'm not even sure why you are calling me names when you could not even understand what I said. you used the same derogatory terms against someone else that disagreed with you. You come off as very insecure.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You are still misinterpreting me. And claiming I'm misinterpreting you as well lol. Of course you still have to shoot your shot lol. Maybe I'd just assumed that was obvious.

I use names because it's exasperating and frustrating to have a conversation with pessimists that always have an excuse. I get frustrated when people act like shit is supposed to fall in their laps and complain when it doesn't.

Relationships take work. Finding a relationship does, too. It takes subtelty and nuance.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I never said it's easy or that because your advic is bad there is no better way. I am just trying to save them from your bad advice. I wouldn't want them to become pathetic incels.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

Shut the fuck up

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

And dating people at work is practically forbidden now

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

That's probably a good thing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You know you don't have to tell your boss you're dating a coworker right? It's not their business what you do in your off-time. Dating people is legal. Do you tell your parents every time you take a shit?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Dating someone is not a protected class, and unless there is a demand for illegal action or potential whistleblowering, then you can get fired for it without consequences. Helll you can be fired for ANY reason as long as it's not retaliatory or in violation of protected class

Dating people is legal, which is why you don't get arrested for it. But that ain't got any overlap with business policy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

*In the US. In countries with decent labor laws this doesn't fly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just can't fathom doing that even if it was perfectly acceptable. I hope these are jobs people don't give a shit about or they have opportunities for something better. I don't (currently), so if things went south, which for me they tend to, I would be sitting here in a very bad state.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Eh it depends on the workplace. My wife and I met at work through friends, we've been married 13 years, and I think we've only ever been in 2 or 3 meetings together (and those were unusual situations, not regular projects), and we practically never have contact "professionally". It's a large workplace, and there are quite a few couples floating around.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

So, how should people find mates?

here's your answer.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I never had a problem getting women back when I actually left the house. Sophomore year of high school until I got a job at the airport, I practically always had a girlfriend. This included going to ERAU, a campus with 1 female for every 8 males. I had a girlfriend within weeks of arriving on campus.

I disappeared into that work-home to sleep-work thing for a couple years, ended up going back to school at yet another very male dominated aviation school, and I wound up with the only chick in our class.

All the while I have never once gotten a date through a personals site or app; I have a feeling there's a question or two on the profile that they shadowban you for the wrong answer, such as being 5'7", or I suspect being non-christian. To put this into a time scale for you, it feels weird to call them "dating apps" and not "dating sites" because I gave up on the whole idea before "Mobile First."

I'm single right now for one very simple reason: I don't leave the house much.

Edit: to those who have downvoted this comment, could you explain to me why. Let's have this conversation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Same here, I have succeeded in wooing partners even on social media, but getting matches on dating apps has been nigh impossible for some reason.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I've legitimately had better luck at my therapist's office than online dating.