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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Charging infrastructure is still pretty shit compared to refueling a gas car as well.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yes and no.

The EV refueling infrastructure while on the road is kinda shit.

The home refueling infrastructure for gasoline cars is really, really shit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And so if you aren't a home owner then the ev refuling is shit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Renters can have home charging, too. Just need an outlet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For 2-3 miles of range an hour ? https://www.tesla.com/support/charging

Also not all renters have access to sockets. The last complex I rented at years ago had zero outlets in thier parking lot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A 240v 40A dryer outlet delivers 30mph which is more than plenty for home charging

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Which you'd have to lay to run a line. Having to run dozens or hundreds of them fir an apartment complex requires a lot if money

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

And if you’re in a European city without off-road parking, at-home refuelling for EVs is shit too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I love these crazy comparisons you people make. Nobody gives a fuck if they have to stop 2 minutes to refuel. 5 minutes if there is a line. Nobody wants to take an hour long wait for a charge port.

It's like none of you have ever traveled for the holidays.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, but that totally makes sense if no one is buying. It's just, that no one is buying, because automakers aren't really interested in EVs, since gas powered have bigger margins, meaning initial manufacturing cost is lower, so they can jack the prices. When they do it with EVs it's getting very ridiculous very fast.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe in your country, here the majority of sold cars are electric. And the charging network is great. (Switzerland)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I'm from Germany. So we are big petrol heads over here ...

Also, my point was about pricing, is that different in Switzerland? I would doubt that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, the majority of Swiss people drives overpriced SUVs anyway.. so I guess the margins are pretty good And people here see the saving potential if you use less than 0.35 CHF/kWh 🔋 power compared the often more than 2.0 CHF/L ⛽️ power 1L of ⛽️ has about 10kWh but energy going to the street is way less compared to EV

Source: https://www.econologie.de/Energie-enthalten-in-Liter-Kraftstoff-Diesel-oder-Benzin/

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Right. Thanks for sharing.

I hate the SUV trend as a whole, but especially in EVs it's just so non-sensical. Trying to build more resourceconsious vehicles, but at the same time building them twice as big and heavy as they need to be, while trying to achieve range ...