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correct me if I'm wrong but I thought net neutrality by definition was the ISPs doing these shenanigans. at least that's what I gathered when the whole topic was blowing up with that guy with the face we all up voted on Reddit so he'd show up on Google Images under "punchable faces" or something.
I agree this is an anti-competitive tactic. that's what I was referring to as it being a shitty dark pattern thing - to lure people into using their tools.
it seems quite by definition that ISP are what it's about though
the principle that internet service providers should enable access to all content and applications regardless of the source, and without favoring or blocking particular products or websites. -Oxford Dictionary
Net neutrality is the principle that an ISP has to provide access to all sites, content, and applications at the same speed, under the same conditions, without blocking or giving preference to any content. -Wikipedia
Network neutrality—the idea that Internet service providers (ISPs) should treat all data that travels over their networks fairly, without improper discrimination in favor of particular apps, sites or services - EFF
Net neutrality, principle that Internet service providers (ISPs) should not discriminate among providers of content. -Britannica
Google is not an ISP lol not when we're talking about YT
hit post too fast but we're talking YT here. this isn't going through their ISP. it literally does not count. if Google fiber added the slow lane, sure net neutrality problem.
also, it's not an "oversight". we're just literally not talking about net neutrality here and that's what I'm saying. this isn't a net neutrality problem lol
bro just admit you got the definition wrong and stop with this please. idc if it should be. it's not. by definition.
yes, actually! its a positive thing when people can admit that. I was just getting frustrated that you were beating around the bush when you were wrong. look, I, too, believe in net neutrality and companies not being anti competive dick holes, but we gotta use the right words for things or else people start mixing issues up and it weakens the issue as a whole when people start confusing it with other things.
okay, but we're talking about net neutrality and how you got it wrong. it's not about how strict I'm interpreting things or not. there's no ambiguity in the definition here. you are NOT talking about net neutrality. it indeed does matter whether or not you're using the right words here because you're using them wrong. you can't say apple is an orange, then when people say it's not the same, you can't say: well... it's in the spirit of an apple because it's a fruit. we're not talking linguistics here either. you're continuing to beat around the bush. you're using some no true Scottsman fallacy here. you can't say the true definition of something should include something that's not in the definition just because you're wrong. that's not an argument.