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UN report says world is racing to well past warming limit as carbon emissions rise instead of plunge
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this post was submitted on 21 Nov 2023
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Being vegan is the most impactful change that individuals can make.
But we won’t change.
It is totally hopeless.
Systemic problems require systemic solutions. Hoping everyone collectively changes their behaviour isn't a solution unfortunately.
We have all the tools and technology to make a huge dent in this problem right now if not outright solve it. The most impactful thing you can do is spread awareness and do what you can to make this a voting issue if you live in a democracy. It could even be as simple is making it a non negotiable for how you choose to vote.
Lack of climate action needs to be a death sentence for the careers of the political class or it will become a death sentence for the the rest of us.
I'll do you one better: don't have kids!
Maybe Vote for candidates who won't FORCE people, and children, to have babies.
And if that's not enough, then at least there won't be any humans around to suffer through it!
But you're fighting against a fundamental urge of life here ... kinda hard to achieve that at a large scale. At least that's why I tell myself and my kid.
Yea, you're absolutely right. Humans are just animals in the end. Tho it is important to remember that your impact is absolutely microscopic, and even if 95% of people suddenly had the willingness, income and ability to make such changes to their life..
..there would still be a market for it, and we'd barely make a dent in the problem. Big corporations and billionaires are so much worse
No one want's to hear "Don't fuck in the front hole" after a hard day at work
malthusianism is gross.
Not having children is the most impactful individual change one can make, well over going vegan.
Becoming a vegan anti-natalist is the most impact a person can make.
I am uncertain of the numbers regarding both individually. You might be right.
Personally, I think both are important.
That's not really a change that an individual can make. Either you already have them or you don't.
It's a choice you can make
this is eugenicist propaganda. also, going vegan has no impact at all.
No it is not. Eugenics is an attempt to improve the genetic quality of a human population.
We are talking about an attempt to stop climate change. We are not trying to “improve” the genetics of human population.
those are the trappings, but the method is bare eugenics
No it is not. Eugenics is a pseudo-science about improvement of genetics. Period.
Trying to avoid climate catastrophe is not about improving genetics.
no, it's not, even the wikipedia article we both love disputes this claim plainly.
if the method by which you try to avoid it is eugenicist, then it is.
I’m done.
I am not into bickering for no reason.
i didn't ask you to say anything in the first place.
that's a narrow definition that doesn't really encompass all the ways in which eugenics has been practiced. frequently, as i have done here, it is used synonymously with genocide. stop practicing genocide.
No. Genocide is murdering people. Genocide is violence against people. Forcing people, against their will to stop existing.
Asking people to reproduce less is asking people (not forcing them) to exercise their own will.
genocide is also propaganda that encourages one segment of the population to cease reproduction.
Braindead take. We don't need more children to be born into a world of suffering.
And the easiest. But even if all animal products were eliminated worldwide tomorrow, it would probably still not be enough for the emissions target. So individual changes do not make a dent in the problem.
regrettably, God made animals taste good.
being vegan has no impact at all.
Are you joking? Industrial scale production of cow and pig meat are disastrous for the climate.
What makes you think major nations will forego their cheapest source of energy if other nations are using it?