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did Joe Biden vote for Clarence thomas?
Did Joe Biden nominate Clarence Thomas? Because that's the issue.
Do you really think Obama or Biden would have installed justices to end Roe if they had the chance? Be serious.
Biden is Catholic so... yes.
Biden has repeatedly said that he was pro-choice. Why don't you even know that?
politicians are notorious for lying and backstabbing.
What evidence do you have that he was in favor of outlawing abortion? Because "he's a Catholic" is not it. There are whole Catholic organizations that want legal abortion.
https://www.catholicsforchoice.org/who-we-are/our-case-for-support/pro-choice-catholicism-101/
he's a politician. that's literally all the evidence I need to believe he might be lying.
Ah, so he "might be" lying and that's why he would have put Supreme Court Justices in place that would have ended Roe.
Question- Is Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson anti-abortion?
how many of those justices did Biden vote to confirm?
biden voted for Thomas. he DID install him.
Is Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson pro- or anti- abortion?
this is a red herring.
The only example of a Supreme Court justice he nominated is a red herring?
yes. she would not say what she thought about abortion in her confirmation hearings. but we know he did confirm justices who have ruled to vacate roe v wade.
Please name the Supreme Court justice that was open about their view on abortion before being confirmed. Just one name please.
I don't know of any.
Then I guess you have no point.
my point is that Joe Biden is more responsible for the makeup of the current supreme Court than any president in history.
Yes, his predecessor who nominated three justices and got all three confirmed is far less responsible for the makeup of the court. Fact.
without the judgement that resulted from his decades of rubber-stamping nominees in the Senate, the jurisprudence and caselaw could have been radically different by the time Donald j Trump was in a position to nominate anyone. in fact, it's possible trump never would have been president if Biden had ever once in his life done the right thing.
So it's "possible" Trump would never have done that if Biden had done something else and that's why Biden is definitely worse than Trump. Gotcha. Go vote for Trump then. Problem solved.
I'm torn between Jill Stein and Cornel West at the moment
That'll sure make a difference. Definitely vote for a person who has no chance of winning. Your anonymous vote will definitely change things. Good plan.
I don't vote for someone unless I want them to win.
And there's definitely a possibility of either Jill Stein or Cornel West winning. That is something that has at least as high a chance of happening as me winning the Powerball. And I've never bought a lottery ticket.
I didn't say anything about probabilities. I'm talking about who is right for the job.
This is what you said:
So I guess you mean you only vote for people you fantasize about winning even if they have absolutely no chance?
What does that achieve?
sometimes the people I vote for win.
but why would I ever have over someone if I didn't want them to win?