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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you mean vote for him vs. not vote for him, then yes.

If you mean vote for him vs. the Republican nominee, then no, as there are other options. For starters the article seemed to suggest that some may just not vote at all. They also might vote for him but do so reluctantly, e.g. without discussing with their friends strongly promoting the voting for Biden as they did in the last election.

But it's a long way to the actual election, and campaigning has not started in earnest yet.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

How could that ever be successful? I like the Billions paraphrase

anybody making a bet they don't know works out [Cotton] is a sucker [schmuck, my word]

—Billions

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"Successful"? Ah, I see, you think they are making their choices strategically, rather than emotionally. Interesting. :-D

I kid, but there actually is strategy involved there - by saying that their votes cannot be "counted on", they could be attempting to wrangle additional concessions.

Ofc there is a bunch of nonsense going on as well - e.g. blaming Biden for not managing to codify Roe v. Wade, in this Congress!? They would have a better chance of asking to go to the moon - that is expensive but at least possible in theory!:-P I mention Congress ofc bc that is the government body that passes laws - the Presidency enforces, maybe vetoes, but does not make laws, so having a President receptive to and even someone who heavily pushes for a certain thing is not sufficient. Contrary to popular opinion, the Presidency has many limitations, and you do not simply show up to vote and somehow life gets "all better", as some seem to think. Young people can be quite inexperienced and naive sometimes.

Then again, it was not young people that gave us Trump, and if they choose not to bail this country out again a second time, especially if they vote their conscience as a result of Israel (right or wrong mind you, in fact especially the latter), I will not be blaming the least experienced among us as the scapegoat to all of life's problems... It should not be the case that it is up to those least prepared to deal with a situation, to be the deciding factor that "saves" us all - and the fact that we continue to ignore this aspect every time the young people show up to do so, shows how perilous the situation truly is. Maybe next time they won't? If so, then we never deserved saving in the first place... bc that's not freedom, to continually lie in the shadow of destruction.