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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

History didn't start on October 7th mate. Isreal has been exterminateing Palestinians for a long time.

Not that it matters, trying to "both sides" this is like trying to both sides the Holocaust because of the Warsaw ghetto uprising.

To say that only one side is to blame, is wrong.

Isreal is 100 percent, unilaterally to blame

Without oct 7 this would never have happened

this was happening before October 7th. For fucks sake, what is that makes people like you feel the need to spout their opinion on things they don't know the slightest thing about.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I do get the analogy of the Warsaw ghetto, I've used the same analogy before.

But the relationship between hamas and the Israeli governement is very curious. If say I'm not on the both sides kind of thing, but on the 'one of three'. The Palestinian people are suffering under the war mongering of both hamas and the idf. Just like not one hundred procent of Israelis are behind the actions of the idf, most Palestinian people aren't responsable for the actions of Hamas.

It's way more complicated than the binary issue you lot try to make it off it and frankly that is tiring and obtuse.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No it really isn't; the genocide currently being perpetuated by the Israel is one of the greatest atrocities of our time, and irrelevant bleatings about Hamas are a naked attempt to distract from that fact.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not disputing that that's the case. But simplifying a conflict that is almost a hundred years old into a binary blame model is silly.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Nah, I'm happy to say that genocide is bad without feeling the need to both sides it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For me the problem with the "both sides" argument is that it misses the symmetry issue.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Oh and I would agree that the symmetry is way off. It's only that the conflict is so old and complex that putting it down to a binary good/bad narrative is quite simplistic.

No one in their right mind would call both sides innocent either. The amount of guilt and the assymetry can be argued about. I tend to agree that the Palestinian people are suffering way more than anyone in that part of the world. It seems that neither hamas nor the IDF care about them at all.