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[–] [email protected] 245 points 1 year ago (7 children)

The renewed focus on reliability is motivated by emerging applications. Imagine a wireless factory robot in a situation where a worker suddenly steps in front of it and the robot needs to make an immediate decision.

This example is a real WTF. I really hope nobody is planning on building safety-critical real-time systems on top of WiFi!

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago

I imagine many already exist. But the system should be designed to fail safe with WiFi in mind.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know about manufacturing environments but I deal with laboratories a lot, and I'm a bit baffled at how quickly lab operators have jumped on battery-operated wifi sensors for lab monitoring systems. I have like three room sensors attached to my EcoBee thermostat at home and I can barely be assed to change the batteries in those things, I cannot imagine dealing with batteries and connectivity troubleshooting for a building full of sensors whose reliable operation is often critical for regulatory compliance. Seems like the perfect application for PoE systems, to me

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

In industrial there are very few wireless systems unless they are either too remote from the CPU and aren't safety sensitive. Safety is taken very seriously because any incident can mean injuries/death and ending up in the public eye. Any safety systems are hard wired because of reliability.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

I really hope nobody is planning on building safety-critical real-time systems on top of WiFi!

Are you new to the planet? Let me tell you about this thing we have called capitalism...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Better hope staff don’t Microwave their lunch at the wrong time….

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This sounds like they're talking about something specific. There was a guy that was picked up/crushed by a robot recently that is eerily similar.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I work in autonomous vehicle engineering. That's not even on the table for something we'd consider doing. But China is trying to enter the market hard, and I am less sure they wouldnt do that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You could safely bet somebody already does