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    [–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    X11 is already dead, and it will not become more or less usable it will always stay the way it's and wayland will get better. that's the difference and flatpak is just an option it doesn't try to replace what's already availible. spreading distrust and misinformation about these softwares doesn't help

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    X11 is already dead

    How do you mean that? I've been using X11 for like 17 years. i3 uses X11, and I will most likely not use another WM if I can help it. It's perfect for me. X11 is available in the core repositories of all the big distros.

    Curious to know what you mean by "dead".

    [–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    by dead I mean abandonware, not devoloped for anymore

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Just because they don't do full releases doesn't mean it isn't developed anymore. They switched to updating modules individually, with three updates made this month. Doesn't sound very abandoned to me.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    It's on life support but it is doomed.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

    That's not what the person I was replying to said, they said it's abandonware and not being developed anymore. Which is not true.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Sway is essentially i3 + Wayland, so it shouldn’t be a hard switch once X11 goes EOL.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    I actually used Sway for a while. Can't remember why I switched back though. What would X11 "going end-of-life" entail? Not being distributed/packaged anymore? Is there an official timeline for that or something?

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

    Not that I’m aware yet.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Check out sway. It's exactly like i3 but for wayland

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I did but went back to i3 for some reason I can't remember. I think it had something to do with DPI issues in wayland at the time, so the scaling was inconsistent between apps.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Probably applications incompatible with wayland running under an x11 compatibility layer which doesn't do scaling. It should be resolved when all applications support wayland.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

    Cool. I won't be looking for news on when that might be. πŸ˜