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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Those users don't send usage data back to Haier that they can then sell to other companies

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes, but without the plug in, they wouldn't buy the product to give the data. It's circulat logic on their part.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I bet they're using data sales to subsidize the cost of the devices.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Subsidize? Oh sweetheart, that's not happening - that's just more profit! Silly goose!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that, and I can imagine they fear a giant wave of support tickets from people using HA and having problems

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they have a good support team they already have a form letter for "you are using this product in an unsupported way" and it takes about 30 seconds to process them.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And let's be honest, someone with the tech knowhow to set up home assistant isn't going to ask Haier for help

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yea I don't really contact a company unless someone on a forum specifically says that's the best way to resolve the issue (ex. Account authentication related bugs). Either that or it's specifically related to my purchase

Pretty sure that's the case for my less tech-savvy friends and family too

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unless they already bought it and now have to either throw it away or start using the (presumably) shitty app.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The app already exists, so anyone who has it, will keep it.

Anyone in the market to purchase will now avoid. Their suit will cost more sales than the app, which may have actually generated sales by existing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

…so anyone who has it, will keep it.

I literally saw someone in a different thread about this earlier talking about ripping out their Liftmaster garage doors when they pulled a similar move last year.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It depends. My HVAC controller is a similar story to this one, and a dev has put together a plugin for HA that achieves the same thing. But it makes the exact same calls to the cloud service the OEM uses, so I'm certain they're getting the same usage data from me, regardless of the software means I use to make those calls.