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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The book is a bunch of non-sensical, contradictory fairy tales written and rewritten by a million dudes, a thousand times over, to manipulate others.

True, but one of the few things it isn't unclear or downright self-contradictory about is that the main dude said to help the poor and otherwise marginalised people.

I love it when people pretend to know what "the book" says better than Christians

As an atheist who's actually read the damn thing rather than just gotten the perspectives of conservative preachers and politicians, I'm not pretending. I do in fact know better than some so-called Christians what their stupid book says.

I also follow the more empathetic parts of it better than anyone on the "Christian Right"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm glad you brought this up. I don't know if he stuttered. Never met the guy. But according to The Bible, he did say:

If a man also lie with mankind as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death.

  • Leviticus 20:13

And:

You shall have no other Gods before me

  • Exodus 20:3

Now we can go back and forth about what all of that means and historical context and all of that and I would argue that that would be arguing my point, precisely. None of us are born with innate knowledge of "God's word" and God doesn't come down here to clarify what he means about anything. So everybody interprets it to mean whatever they want it to mean (that's you). And who are you tell absolutely anyone else that their interpretation is wrong?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Was it in the gospels?

No?

Unlikely Jesus said it.

Not today, Satan. Not today.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah. Sure thing. Not today.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

True, but one of the few things it isn't unclear or downright self-contradictory about is that the main dude said to help the poor and otherwise marginalised people.

Absolutely not true. "The main dude" did all kinds of fucking heinous shit, up to and including genocide of the entire human race.

As an atheist who's actually read the damn thing rather than just gotten the perspectives of conservative preachers and politicians, I'm not pretending.

It doesn't matter if you've "actually read the damn thing" because as I've already explained, it doesn't make any fucking sense and has no principles.

You can do what Christians do and cherry-pick passages that affirm your current beliefs, or what you want to believe, but then you're using the same flawed logic they are where you ignore giant swaths of contradictory statements.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Show us all the verses that contradict the help the poor message, then, since you're so smart.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I already have. Do you consider genocide of the entire human race "helping the poor"?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

What does genocide have to do with contradicting the message of helping the poor? Explain your whole thought process and logic.