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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's what exactly no theory does to someone.

Neoliberalism leads to and enables fascism down the road, but itself is not fascism. Neoliberalism is letting Capitalism loose, which will result in Capitalists gaining power and creating an absolute bourgeois state to oppress the Workers, typically by providing an "enemy" as a response to increasing disparity and a slipping of the grasp of Capital.

Fascism is a response to Neoliberalism, but is not the same, and in the US election the Neoliberal party and the fascist party vary significantly when it comes to social issues. Violence against minority populations is vastly increased under republican governance, and those I love are not privledged enough to not be in danger.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Neoliberalism leads to and enables fascism down the road, but itself is not fascism.

no, neoliberalism is fascism. liberal democracies are breeding grounds for fascism.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You contradicted yourself. Neoliberalism is not fascism, it provides the breeding grounds for fascism.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

neoliberalism is fascism. I didn't contradict myself.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Elaborate. You said it's fascism, then said liberal democracy is a breeding ground for fascism. Which is it? Is all reactionary ideology fascism?

This is what I mean. You have precisely no grounding in theoretical knowledge, and cannot understand the differences between a fascist movement that results from Neoliberalism, to Neoliberalism itself. That's like saying a tadpole is an adult frog. Same species, Capitalist, but completely different stages.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Elaborate

They think so therefore they're right. I've seen far too many ludicrous statements by people that clearly came before the evidence, not after it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

fascism is a strictly regimented society in which every institution serves the state. under Mussolini the most obvious expression was corporatism and in fact that is the purest definition of fascism. sure, eco will talk about The racial stuff as Central but I don't think Mussolini ever would. I think that he only saw that as part of strengthening the state just like almost every other country who was practicing eugenics at the time did, just like the United States.

fascists come to power out of liberal democracies because liberal democracies are incapable of preventing them. All they have to do is pitch themselves as " third positionist" like clinton did.

neoliberalism is fascism.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (24 children)

You explained what I already said: Neoliberalism creates the conditions for fascism. When one candidate is a Neoliberal, they leave the door open for fascism. When one candidate is a fascist, you're straight jumping to fascism.

Delaying the slide to fascism by voting neoliberal is the preferred course of action.

You're a fed, you have no knowledge of theory and exist purely to spoil the pot.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Violence against minority populations is vastly increased under republican governance

citation needed, because Mike Brown was murdered under the deporter in chief, and Biden wrote the crime bill that clinton signed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (9 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Obama straight up murdered an American citizen for going to the wrong wedding. being Muslim is dangerous under Democrats.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's certainly a whattaboutism, considering Republicans have routinely bombed the fuck out of the Middle East as well. I gave you proof and you're moving the goalposts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not moving the goal posts. they're exactly where I planted them: you can't quantify all violence, so you can't say that it's going to be higher under one administration or another against any group.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can. I gave proof, higher rates of hate crimes is bad, and Bush obviously got the US involved in Iraq. US foreign policy is extremely Imperialist, yes, but the dems feign social progressivism while the reps include hatred of minorities as a part of their platform.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you only gave statistics on what the fascist government classes as illegal violence.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (11 children)

You're genuinely a fed, you've read no theory and are incapable of materialist analysis. You aren't a leftist, you're stirring the pot. You're a reactionary at best.

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