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[–] [email protected] 122 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The 1 to 4 billion animals killed by outdoor cats every year: X_X

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not to mention all the outdoor cats that are themselves killed or horribly injured.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I know a guy who went through 5 cats in a few months because he was getting them, letting them out, and they were getting hit by cars since he lives on a super busy road that has heavy semi traffic.

It really reminds me of that one joke "I keep having to buy a new car because my neighbors dog keeps eating it" " it sounds like you're just feeding cats to the neighbors dog"

Dude just didn't seem to grasp simple addition that his new cat + outside in a bad area = squish

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sounds like Pet Sematary.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

What, he was like "huh Snuffy hasn't been around for a few days. Welp, time to get a new cat I suppose!" every two weeks?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The only cat I've had that I've felt okay with letting roam was a stray that came to us declawed, so he was mostly harmless. We still ended up making him an inside cat because we caught him sneaking into the neighbor's house to steal their cat's food and poop in its litterbox.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Declawed cats are a coyotes favorite meal. Big enough to feed the kids and cant even fight back

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Not a lot of coyotes in our neck of the woods, but the little orange moron kept writing checks with the neighbor cats that his disarmed front paws couldn't cash, so he was always coming back with scratches. One of the other reasons we stopped letting him out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is an oddly specific culinary preference for a wild animal to have.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Easy to catch fattened meals are a pretty clear cut preference

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is that how that works though? I don't know anything about Coyotes, but I know things generally know better than to fuck with cats.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

.......... Are you asking if a coyote can eat a cat?

Do you understand they hunt deer? Theyre not really worried about a cat with clawless arthritis, horn and hoof wounds are much bigger threats.

Predators dont know better than to not fuck with cats, most of them know to grab them before they get up a tree.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Declawing is cruel. It's basically cutting off your first knuckle.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I would never do it to a cat, but when this particular one wandered into my then-girlfriend's house one night and decided he lived there, he was already declawed. He never seemed to suffer too badly from it, fortunately.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But what if he was a guest there? Maybe the neighbour's cat told him "make yourself at home?" Did you even ask him? Psh ...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

We actually found out when my wife was over visiting, and he came in through the cat door, locked eyes with her, froze, and slowly backed out of the house. 😅

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

Yup, fuck your outdoor cats.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Absolute environmental disaster, they need to be spayed and neutered and occasionally culled by any competent local government.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You'll also need to ban pet cats from walking outside without a leash. Our cats were neutered, didn't stop them from killing any mice or birds they could get their paws on.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The reason they need to be spayed and neutered instead of outright killed is because culls don't really work on animals that reproduce that quickly. Whenever a spot opens up for another cat to make its territory, it gets immediately claimed. There are a ton of research papers that show spaying and neutering is more effective at lowering stray populations, and that euthanization is more costly on top of being less effective.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I was talking about the cats that are kept as pets, not stray cats. I guess it varies from country to country, but most cats walking around outside in Norway are pets (~90%). Reducing the stray cat population to zero wouldn't fix the issue of cats killing all the small wildlife unless pet cats are also kept inside.

I wasn't saying anything against neutering cats.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If the cat never exits the home then idgaf honestly, but if it escapes then it should be eliminated in the most effective way possible. That is my stance, an unattended cat is a stray for all intents and purposes.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow that's cruel. Someone's cat gets loose, they can't find it yet, and you think it should be killed. Good job killing Fluffy because he escaped.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But letting it slaughter little birds is not cruel, somehow? A manmade pest with no beneficial role to nature is somehow much better to you than functioning ecosystems? If a cat gets out, the owner has made a mistake and will now deal with the consequences.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You mean allowing those cats to follow their instinct doesn't compare to a human making a rational decision to straight up kill someones cat because they slipped through a door?

Who would have thought?

Do you also kill your spouse when they eat a steak?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'd say we take this one step further and declaw, spay, neuter, and keep a lot of people on a leash.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Oh no, the horror.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I miss the internet where people could laugh at a silly comics instead of writing and upvoting this.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They're projecting. There is an industry killing billions of animals which is also very bad for the environment and ecosystems. If only they could be as passionate about that as about someone else's cat…

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Statistics.

Didn't expect Lemmy to turn Reddit this fast 😅

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Who cares that I club seals? Johnny next door clubs 50 walruses. Sure theyre both going extinct now, but he gets 50 a day! I only get 1!! How could you care that Im clubbing seals with all those dead walruses?"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly the poor logic you'd expect from someone who didn't go to college. Apparently most of Lemmy…

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Im a professional ecologist, there, animal abuser.

But go on, keep telling me how you failed middle school bio so hard that you know better than the global scientific community

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lol 😝 You're full of shit. Sad thing is you don't know it yet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Mate, we're old enough now to have to actually fix shit instead of waxing lyrical about our youth. Let's work together, and still have a laugh.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm glad to know my outdoor cat kills animals

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you get off on animals going extinct? What is wrong with you?

"Outdoor domestic cats are a recognized threat to global biodiversity. Cats have contributed to the extinction of 63 species of birds, mammals, and reptiles in the wild"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Pretty fuckin low on the priority list to be honest. Cats have been doing this forever. Humans are way worse.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Yeah in their natural habitats, humans are the ones that brought cats with them enabling them to hunt species to extinction. Cats could not have done it without humanity's help.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Cats are part of the human problem. If you cant reason that bit out, you 100% should not be responsible for another living thing, and probably need regular supervision from an adult to keep you from hurting yourself

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Agreed, lol. These people are way too sensitive about pests and birds dying.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why are you proud of lacking empathy for other living creatures? Are you hollow inside? When will you become part of figuring out a balance, instead of being proud of the problem?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Humans kill much, much more animals.