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Handwringing over Biden's age has Democrats worried about a repeat of Ruth Bader Ginsberg's refusal to step down
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It kind of is though, his stance has been well known for a while now
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4962369/user-clip-joe-biden-israel-usa-invent-israel-protect-interest-region
What Israel is doing is horrible. Don’t get me wrong.
Biden inherited a long-standing strategic alliance which was not ideal.
Biden helped to create that alliance lol.
Ok ok. But in a few months time the realistic choice (unless trump goes to prison and is disqualified) is Biden vs Trump and I don’t think there’s any choice there whatsoever.
I think that your choices are so bad that it's time to start from scratch.
Trump isn’t even a valid option unless a person is genuinely fucked in the head, which it appear that 40% of the US are.
Yeah if you have a fucked-in-the-head constituency of 40%, I think it's time to start fresh. Especially if you fuckers try to make fucked-in-the-head politics the global norm. Death to America, unironically.
The rightwing media is completely out of control and has been getting worse for decades. Without them (and their dark money paymasters) fuelling the descent into fuckwitism, the US would be in much better shape to help everyone.
And you lump your "left wing" media into the right wing bin too right? Because on a global scale, you have no left wing media. ALL OF YOUR MEDIA IS RIGHT WING.
That’s not true.
I disagree.
The joy of free speech in Western democracies is the ability to disagree publicly without being thrown in jail for it.
Yeah it's been such a joy.
Which is why people shouldn't vote. Don't participate in a sham vote, don't vote for genocidal maniacs.
No you should vote, but you should also engage in civil disobedience, and at some point uncivil disobedience.
I disagree. There is 0 incentive for the democratic party to not fudge primaries/caucuses in order to run hawks like Clinton or Biden if all they have to be is slightly less fascist than Trump in order to still be voted in. If the last week have shown anything its that it wasnt the marches with literally hundrerds of thousands in attendance, but people threatening to withhold their vote, that got the upper echelons of the party sweating. But people have to be prepared to make good on their threats if they want to be taken seriously.
Fair take.
Fuck off. It’s vote Dem or face the destruction of the US.
Guess what the oppressed of the world prefer...
You know ‘the oppressed of the world’ would not be so oppressed if the progressive left of the US had a long free reign over policy and if other countries stopped putting utter shitcunts into power. Looking at you China and Russia.
You do not have a left wing party in the US.
Not truly, no. Sadly.
The "progressive left" that is being headed by Genocide Joe?? I wouldn't bet on it...
No the actual progressive left.
I’m beginning to realise that you’re a troll and am going to stop feeding you.
And how does voting biden help them??
He’s the only viable candidate in the field. He has a lifetime of experience and is overall a reasonable person.
I believe we have reached the end of what can be said based on facts. If you think that genocide joe, despite his fervent zionism, despite his enthusiastic support for the ongoing ethnic cleansing in palestine, even finding ways around congress to support it, that he still is a reasonable candidate who would help the left in the US get to a position of power where they can enact meaningful change, even though you agree he isn't a progressive leftist that would do anything a leftist person would do, then I dont know what else I have to say.
Have a nice slide into fascism while voting for harm reduction that never seems to come.
So would you have us vote for Trump?!?! I’m not sure of what your solution is.
No, he's right. You should take a step back and recalibrate.
Well, congratulations to Democrats for making sure the progressive left has no power.
Mmmm. No. The Dems have had to slowly drift rightwards to ensure they get some votes from those influenced by the rightwing media ecosystem.
Biden helped build that alliance for over 37 years now, thats how old that clip is. And he explicitly says that they would have to "invent an israel if it didn't exist". This man is not in some moral quandary, this is what he wants, what he wanted for a long time.