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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The thing is, its not about a single rock being precise. Its a 2 million ton monument that we are told is a tomb that was built in like 20 years. Thats about 1.7 million pounds per day, every day. It would take our trucks a fucking insane amount of time just dragging it into position, how did they have the time to cut it as well? For a tomb??? Somehow I feel we are not being told the whole story here...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, it's totally about a single rock being precise. That's the name of the game son. If you don't get the first stone precise, you can't get the second one in precise. And there's loads of different ways to move stone without trucks. I work in a conservation setting, and we use modern machinery as little as possible. If these scholars would bother asking anyone with actual experience in the field they'd get some answers to their questions.

Also what's with the Ancient Aliens bs at the end there?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Its a tomb that was built in 20 years by some guy? Its not ancient aliens, but i have a feeling that the pyramid had a use, not just as some big building. Don't have to agree, but keep an open mind when looking at it

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Somehow I feel we are not being told the whole story here...

This shit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Well, honestly i have no idea, just seems crazy for everyone to be like "we know what it was used for because some guy in the 1800s said so"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or maybe the mummified remains that were found inside might have been an good indication?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The great pyramid is "assumed" to have had a mummy by people in like 900ad no mummies, just more mysteries. Why is the only mummies we find in the three pyramids from a woman, and a man from 2000 years after they were built? The evidence for the royal tomb hypothesis is surpisingly thin. If you think about what we actually see when we look at the pyramids, they are feats of engineering on the scales of which were not seen again until the 1800s. It is insane to me that we think we have any idea how or why the pyramids came to be based on the very minimal amount of evidence we do have on their construction. Not to mention the mysteries of some of the design choices i.e. menkaure casing stones

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll agree on the why. But the how isn't really a mystery.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Placing about one block every 3 minutes is easy to explain?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Egyptologists have long claimed that the pyramids were the tombs of the Egyptian pharaohs. Since 1997-1998, we have the evidence that defends it.

From the article you linked.

None of the things you linked say anything about the time frame for construction.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pyramid_of_Giza

This one says 27 years, and gangs of 100k labourers. 2.3 million blocks, totalling 6 million tonnes. 5.5 million tonnes of limestone, 8k tonnes of granite, and 500k tonnes of mortar.

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Physical-and-chemical-properties-of-some-Egyptian-limestone_tbl1_262921514

By this, density of some local limestone is between 2250kg/m and 2700kg/m, a tonnes is 1000kg. This is a difficult size to manage, but with log rollers, and 100k workers, 27 years is absolutely doable.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Plus, they lived in a desert where there wasn't much in terms of entertainment. It seems like an unbelievable amount of work for us as we have free distractions all over

Back then? The fuck else were you gonna do? Drink all day? Gamble? Both of which require money?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Speaking of drinking! Beer has historically been a part of a Mason's wages! Not because everyone used to be an alcoholic, but because drinking straight water could kill you!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for this :)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

From britishmuseum.org:

Scientific dating techniques and painstaking archaeological research undertaken around the monument over the last few decades have brought the timeline of the site into focus. It is not possible to talk about 'one' Stonehenge – the monument was built, altered, and revered for over 1,500 years. That is equivalent to around 100 generations – it is worth pausing to let the sheer length of time sink in!

From Wikipedia:

There is little or no direct evidence revealing the construction techniques used by the Stonehenge builders. Over the years, various authors have suggested that supernatural or anachronistic methods were used, usually asserting that the stones were impossible to move otherwise due to their massive size. However, conventional techniques, using Neolithic technology as basic as shear legs, have been demonstrably effective at moving and placing stones of a similar size.[48] The most common theory of how prehistoric people moved megaliths has them creating a track of logs which the large stones were rolled along.[49] Another megalith transport theory involves the use of a type of sleigh running on a track greased with animal fat.[49] Such an experiment with a sleigh carrying a 40-ton slab of stone was successfully conducted near Stonehenge in 1995. A team of more than 100 workers managed to push and pull the slab along the 18-mile (29 km) journey from the Marlborough Downs.[49]

Each stone weights around 25 tons and I found this helicopter that can carry 33 tons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_CH-53E_Super_Stallion#Specifications_(CH-53E). So we could easily build this today. Probably wouldn't take long at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What? First i am not arguing that we could not do it. Second stonehenge and the great pyramid are completely different levels of complexity. Third, i know machinery can lift heavy things, the point is even with machines its difficult to do this stuff. How'd they get by with zero machines? In the timeframe mentioned above? For what purpose

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This fragment explains how they could have done it:

The most common theory of how prehistoric people moved megaliths has them creating a track of logs which the large stones were rolled along.[49] Another megalith transport theory involves the use of a type of sleigh running on a track greased with animal fat.[49] Such an experiment with a sleigh carrying a 40-ton slab of stone was successfully conducted near Stonehenge in 1995. A team of more than 100 workers managed to push and pull the slab along the 18-mile (29 km) journey from the Marlborough Downs.[49]

My point was that it's not difficult with modern machines at all. But it can also be done with the methods described above. Especially if you work on it for 1500 years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Building a heli is easy? Also rolling 30 tons for the fun of it is not something people usually do

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Maybe they did it to summon the aliens. Or maybe for the same reason we build expensive churches. Like this one that we have been building for 142 years and it's still unfinished: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagrada_Fam%C3%ADlia