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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Exactly. Which is why people who ate on the opposite end of the extreme, insisting that all cars of all kinds must be banished, are so annoying.

There's no one size fits all system, so stop with the "everyone should just ride the bus or train you don't need cars" rubbish. Neither extreme are correct. We live in the real world.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We should make it such that people don't need cars though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

So how would you get a handicapped person to a specialized doctor in the center of a city with f-ed up public transport?

EDIT: The downvotes show me that you don't have any meaningful answers to that real-world problem.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

By investing in better public transport and by investing in public healthcare.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That would be nice, but with that town, this does not seem an option. The mayor is a bit ... bonkers.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mayors change far more easily and frequently than infrastructure.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Nobody really believes that she'll survive the next election in office.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, fucked up public transport is a necessity?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

No, it just happens that the city I'm talking about has a mayor that has done a bunch of traffic "reforms" for political reasons without thinking or professional guidance. She basically made half-hearted attempts to improve bike traffic (which were not really improvements, neither for bikers, nor for everyone else), didn't do squat for public transport (except that the central bus station is now way worse, and she wants to "start planning an overhaul" in a few years), and the central traffic pipeline, the city ring, is now broken.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I expected powered wheelchair

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would not want to be too close if my wife tried that. There are reasons she's got no driving licence.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Visual disability? Mental instability?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Visual Disability. Cannot properly estimate distances and speeds. Which is quite a problem for driving anything.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow. While inability to estimate speeds has workarounds, I have no idea what to do with inability to estimate distance other than using only public transit or living in city without cars.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Well, we don't live in a city, so we are down to the options "I drive her wherever she needs to go", or long, LONG trips with the occasional public transport.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I don't think anyone is arguing for the complete abolishment of cars, they just don't feel the need to caveat everything anti car they say with of course we still need ambulances etc just in case someone doesn't understand that.