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The people who say they need 3 cups of black coffee to start their day are just addicts with a high tolerance that experience mild withdrawal symptoms each morning.

If you feel like that, it's your body crying for you to take a break.

If you like an occasional cup of coffee or energy drink to get through something, then that's fine. But if you ever feel like one isn't working like it used to, you should take a break from caffeine to reset your tolerance, not up the dosage like an addict.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Nah see..

I'm a coffee person and an addict.

I don't resent my addiction like you seem to, there is no animosity in my relationship with coffee. I embrace my addiction and love it, and it loves me back by giving me just what I need. The high, the robust flavor, the aftertaste, the smell, the experience, everything. And 3 cups of black coffee? Bruh, more like a pot or two to get started (8 cup pots) before 7AM, then maybe a french press or an espresso , followed by perhaps a cup of instant or maybe I'll put some coffee sprinkles in my protein shake. All of that before 11AM. Then if I'm going out in the evening, at least a double espresso and or if I'm out and about maybe an Americano or just a latte. Maybe hit a vending machine or grocery store and get an can of iced Mr Brown or a double shot.

When I was a smoker, there was nothing I loved more in the world than a nice cup of black coffee, something thick like motor oil, and a nice cigarette. I stopped smoking for the health impacts which are material, but I didn't resent it when I was smoking. I enjoyed every minute of it. Its the same with coffee. This puritanical approach to self-hating anything that brings you joy. Its a bit silly and not for me. I have no shame in the things that bring me pleasure. Its a far deeper shame to avoid pleasure because of some intrinsic guilt about it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I would contend that if you're making American style drip coffee you don't like coffee that much.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would contend that there's 501 ways to make coffee and telling others their way is "wrong" is a douche move.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would contend that using coffee as a douche is something you should discuss with your doctor before doing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can we still buttchug it though?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If your drip comes out tasting not amazing, that's on you. Drip is a perfectly acceptable way to make coffee. Its just a matter of grind, roast, and filter parameters. Its not like I don't also have about 15 other ways to make coffee. The biggest factor in drip (imo) is actually the hot-plate most american coffee makers come with. This absolutely ruins the coffee very quickly. Turn that off and just accept that you'll need to finish the whole pot in about 40 minutes (longer if you use a vacuum urn). I have no problem finishing a pot of coffee in 30-50 minutes.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The amount of people that think all drip coffee is the same is wild. Yeah what you get out of a keurig cup is probably going to be shit, because they use shit coffee. Some people are perfectly fine with that, and that's just as valid as those of us that put way the fuck too much effort into it.

Sometimes I take the time to use my mocha pot. Sometimes I'll make cold brew. Sometimes I just want a good cup of coffee with minimal effort. With the right settings and coffee, drip coffee is going to come out a helluva lot better than anything you're gonna get at a chain place.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The cooler coffee is, the longer it stays tasting good. Making an extra cup or two and letting it sit at room temp for an hour or two and then heating it up in the microwave works for me. Too large a quantity may not cool down fast enough, and if you heat it back up to scalding that can have an negative effect.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, depending on the design, though, those hotplates can really damage the flavor. Technology Connections does a great in-depth breakdown of how they do this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp9H0MO-qS8

They are just way way way too hot. The pretty much start ruining the coffee right away.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Sorry if I was unclear. I'm in agreement with you that hot plates degrade coffee. I was recommending the let it cool down and heat it back up later approach.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Not only that, but coffee made well will taste fine cold/room temp.

Yeah, I prefer it hot, but my cold coffee is perfectly drinkable.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

How is drip coffee differently scientifically from your snob version ? Espresso machine? Temp, water ratio? Please explain?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

There is plenty of drip coffee that is perfectly good.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

When I was a smoker, there was nothing I loved more in the world than a nice cup of black coffee, something thick like motor oil, and a nice cigarette.>

Fuuuck yeah, talk dirty to me, Daddy. God, I miss that, and I haven't touched a cigarette in 13 years. Still drink coffee every day though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's a lot of words to say "I'm addicted to a stimulant and spend a lot of time making how I take said stimulant taste good"

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s a lot of words to say you have no pleasure in your life and think no one else should either.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Caffeine is a stimulant that has withdrawals. I prefer my joys to not threaten to harm me if I stop using them.

Good food doesn't kick you in the stomach if you eat it every day for a week, then don't for a week.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You sound like a puritanical bore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm puritanical because I prefer the things I consume to not harm me if I stop taking them? Like today I went to an indoor water park and had some lovely shrimp salad.

Those two are wonderful because if I choose not to go swimming tomorrow (hard to go every day during the winter) I will not have a variety of physical negative side effects. I also don't have to eat more shrimp or risk a mental break down.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/Press_releases/2004/09_29_04.html#:~:text=The%20researchers%20identified%20five%20clusters,and%20muscle%20pain%20or%20stiffness.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

You could have had a fun back and forth discussion here, not come across like a douche nozzle