this post was submitted on 13 Mar 2024
1147 points (100.0% liked)

Technology

68244 readers
3939 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related news or articles.
  3. Be excellent to each other!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, this includes using AI responses and summaries. To ask if your bot can be added please contact a mod.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
  10. Accounts 7 days and younger will have their posts automatically removed.

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 123 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That graph is trash. The baseline needs to be at zero.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That graph hurts my data scientist heart

[–] Hawk 3 points 1 year ago

It’s common practice to cut the y axis, did you guys not cover that in visualisation?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (5 children)

No it doesn't.

It's meant to illustrate a change and it does so perfectly fine. It's not a scientific paper.

It's a 32-34% increase looking at the graph. That's significant enough to shout about.

Imagine any change you could make surprising competition by 25% in any market. That's huge.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s meant to illustrate a change and it does so perfectly fine

Define "perfectly fine". It is clearly exaggerating the change. At a glance it looks more like a 5 times increase, not a 30% increase.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Of lies, damned lies, and statistics this graph is certainly one of them.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Did you know that disco record sales were up 400% for the year ending 1976, if these trends continue...AY!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It’s a 32-34% increase looking at the graph

But you don't get that percentage from looking at the graph. You get that from looking at the numbers.
The graph height increases by 300% in the last ~~3 months~~ 9 days.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You could say the same about a 0.001 difference if you zoom in on the y-axis. You don't know what you're talking about.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A 0.001 difference on a 0.004 total would be worth showing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That was a bad example. Try 1,000,000 moving up to 1,000,069.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm sticking with relevance. A >25% rise is what we're talking about.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

A 25% raise would show up with the y shits at zero. As would any significant increase.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Could you please clarify why the baseline needs to be at 0? I'm genuinely curious.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This graph gives the impression that the total installation number has been multipliés x4 or X5 while it is not the case when looking at the raw numbers.

Any variation can look impressive if you zoom enough, that's why you need a baseline at 0. This way you see thé entire scale of the phenomenon

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This graph gives the impression that the total installation number has been multipliés x4 or X5

How so? It goes from ~7 to ~11. That's not even x2.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It goes from ~7 to ~11. That’s not even x2.

Yes but the graph goes from 2 rectangles above the bottom line to 8 rectangles above the bottom line in that final surge.
So visually, it looks like it has quadrupled.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While I agree for the sake of clarity, a bigger problem is that it only goes back less than 2 months. Has the number of installs been steady at 7k for a long time? Or does it fluctuate wildly like this occasionally for reasons totally unrelated to laws?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I was just clarifying the original comment about the baseline not being 0.
Tbh, I hadn't even looked at it properly and only noticed now that the timeline isn't one month per box.