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Adding to the mountain of evidence that Israel is engaged in a genocidal war on the Gaza Strip, Al Jazeera on Thursday aired footage of what the news outlet reported was an Israeli drone targeting four Palestinians in Khan Younis last month.

Those killed by the unmanned aerial vehicle in the rubble of the southern Gaza city appear to be unarmed teenagers or young men. According to a translation of the coverage, they were not identified in the reporting.

Tariq Kenney-Shawa, Al-Shabaka's U.S. policy fellow, said: "This is among the worst footage I've seen. Not only were these boys clearly unarmed and present no threat whatsoever, but they were struck multiple times even after stumbling/crawling away. There is no way they could have been considered combatants. This is unreal."

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (6 children)

What's the context? Why were they targetted?

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You've seen the context for months now. They were born in Gaza. That's the context.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Ok, so you believe they were just random targets and nothing significant happened before this footage to make them become targets?

Have they been identified?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wouldn’t be the first time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That's true. On the other hand, a lot of propaganda is constructed at the limit of what's believable.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They don't bother to identify them, if they are male between the ages of 16 and 50 they label them a potential combatant. They have been bombing civilians indiscriminately for years, but they have upped the intensity to levels unseen in years.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Source: your asshole, I presume.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's been a common practice for militaries all over, it's not a secret, you can read about it elsewhere if you like. You are right though, my source is my personal knowledge of the subject.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Right, so why let other two million walk normally?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They have killed other people just for walking around.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

They have not! Only those who have done suspicious things, like standing in a bread line

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

You mean the ones they're starving?

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Israel is killing everyone who lives in Gaza so they can take their land

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Then they are doing a shit job, considering almost 2 million of them remains. Either that or that's not the goal.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Eradicating 1.5%, more than 3% injured of the population of Gaza, destroying more than 35% of the civilian buildings in Gaza, man-made starvation. And now a planned assault on Rafah, where a big chunk of the population is living in nightmarish conditions. Is this what you call little?

And believe me the actual number of the casualties is much bigger, considering that there isn't an independent verification of the direct and indirect casualties. I am sure far rights in Israel are elated.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Genocide is not the goal, but we have been able to accurately predict Israel's next action every step of the way by simply looking at the script for what a genocidal regime would do. But genocide is not Israel's goal. It just looks that way. Maybe a weird coincidence.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why should I believe you or anyone, and not people who are on the ground there. We hear aid is provided, we hear aid is taken away from civilians by Hamas beating people, we hear people selling aid packages to others civilians. We hear all sorts of things. But all you people do is ignore whatever narrative you don't like and focus on one thing. By that measure you can say USA is killing innocent civilians when they dropped that aid package which crushed some of them.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We hear aid is provided, we hear aid is taken away from civilians by Hamas beating people, we hear people selling aid packages to others civilians. We hear all sorts of things.

Which of these potentially terrible things negates what has been done to the people of Gaza? The destruction of their infrastructure - housing, universities, hospitals. The killing of civilians. The living conditions. The starvation.

So there is some, but not nearly enough aid. So some bad actors are taking advantage of the unimaginably fucked up situation there. How does that change the fact that Israel is at best using collective punishment (a war crime) and at worst committing genocide?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

You don't have to believe me, but I'm happy to show my work:

The state of Israel has always rejected the one-state solution and the right-of-return. (It makes political sense, as the Jews would be outnumbered in their own state in a few decades.) It has also rejected or sabotaged a two-state solution by expanding settlements, a process which has ramped up in recent months, so there's nowhere for a second state to exist. Thus, the people of Palestine cannot live in Israel, and they cannot live in Palestine. No other nations would take that many refugees, so they also cannot leave. The, uhh, remaining solution is to kill them, and the IDF feels no compunction about doing exactly that. For decades, genocide hasn't been the avowed goal of the state of Israel, just the inescapable conclusion of a cruel logic.

That brings us up to last October. So what would a genocidal regime do in Israel's place, if it wanted to exterminate a group of people with enough plausible deniability to avoid triggering intervention by the rest of the world? Cut off incoming food, water, and energy? Check, Israel has done that. Contaminate the groundwater? Check. Destroy the energy, sanitary, and transportation infrastructure? Check. Render civilian homes destroyed or unlivable, and destroy businesses? Check. Destroy the health care system? Check. Drive the population toward the border with progressive waves of attacks? Gaza City -> Khan Younis -> Rafah, check.

And all of this, after several Israeli government officials stated explicitly that the goal is, at least, ethnic cleansing.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hitler didn't eradicate the Jewish people. Are you saying that means he wasn't actually trying?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope. Am saying that your comment is wrong. If Israel was trying to do systematic destruction number of deaths would be far higher in such densely populated area. And it's not.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh well it's ok then I guess, they haven't built gas chambers so it's not efficient. Two missiles for 4 people really isn't cost-effective, I see what you mean.

In your opinion, how efficient does it have to be before they're trying to "systematically destroy" Palestine?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Gaza isn't large. You could legitimately destroy 90% of standing structures with 10-20k tomahawk-esque missiles. You could like do the same thing with 5-10x the number of artillery shells.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

If the bombs a bullets don’t get them the famine certainly will.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If that's their goal, aren't they progressing rather slowly? Gaza's population is growing, not diminishing.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah that's a bit hyperbolic. They just want to force them out. Just a little ethnic cleansing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No no no they just want to kill Hamas. If they kill everyone they see, then chances are they will eventually kill all Hamas as well. /s

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They just want to force them out. Just a little ethnic cleansing.

Yeah, that's certainly easier to imagine.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Gazas population isn't currently growing, over 32,000 Palestinians have been killed since October

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

"Intent to destroy in part or whole". Number doesn't matter, and consequently neither does not keeping up with population growth it's still genocide.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Israel was founded on Settler Colonialism and ethnic cleansing, both fundamental to Zionism

The Concept of Transfer 1882-1948 culminating to Plan Dalet in 1948, more details here.

You can learn more in the Apartheid Reports

Amnesty International Report

Human Rights Watch Report

B'TSelem Report with quick Explainer

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not trying to be dense here, but is there a better way to conquer and take land? If taking the land is the strategic objective, how else should they proceed other than to clear it off its current populace?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago

For being Palestinian

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

Genocide. Genocide.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The goal is to kill every single Palestinian so that is why they were targeted

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They cannot say because they were a threat. Unless they had intel on who these men were? But by the looks of it I can’t imagine any person who is a militant would be walking like these men.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You people are brain dead beyond belief. "thEy dOnT wAlk liKe miLitAnts" lmao