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    [–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    If you take it seriously, then at least your complaints should be reasonable, not meme-worthy.

    Autocomplete is a standard feature in CLI nowadays, so no need to remember everything.
    And parameters usually have names chosen to make the most sense and to be memorable (e.g. vo = video output).

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

    Serious person here.

    Can autocomplete fill in a YouTube URL or Spotify playlist name? Can I browse the list of what's available and filter, drill down, poke around according to my whimsy?

    Or if I'm accessing a local file, how do I find that one video of my cat named VID-004326.MP4?

    Can I autocomplete the parameters themselves, which are betimes lengthy and unwieldy to type out?

    Even if it's possible, and I've mastered every arcane parameter necessary to do it, is it really faster / more convenient than doing it through a GUI?

    Maybe there are good answers to the above questions—I don't know and would love to find out—but they and many more like them are surely reasonable and far from meme-worthy, or else I'm missing something huge.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    In which situation would you need an autocomplete for YT URL? Online-only services designed for a web browser are crappy examples.
    But anyway, yes, Spotify clients written for CLI do provide autocomplete and filters. I never tried YT, so I don't know.

    Or if I’m accessing a local file, how do I find that one video of my cat named VID-004326.MP4?

    And how do you do that using GUI? The exact same way, looking blindly and playing random videos (or name the file properly in the first place).

    Can I autocomplete the parameters themselves, which are betimes lengthy and unwieldy to type out?

    Obviously, yes, that's pretty much the entire point.

    Even if it’s possible, and I’ve mastered every arcane parameter necessary to do it, is it really faster / more convenient than doing it through a GUI?

    That mostly depends on the user, but often: yes, it is. Otherwise we'd all have moved on from CLI ages ago.

    Please don't take this as a personal attack, but assuming CLI is some unwieldy, outdated idea requiring mysterious arcane knowledge to use effectively only shows ignorance.
    It also hurts new users, because it discourages them from trying it for bad reasons.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

    The main annoyance with CLI is that it is not nearly as easy to discover things with it. With a gui you can just click through each setting and see what is what. With CLI you can't really, you gotta read the manual which definitely can be cumbersome. And even if the commands do try to make sense it is still very common to forget the abbreviation unless you use it often (or write it down). At least I do. I use git semi occasionally and keep forgetting amend.

    I like CLI. But it does have its shortcomings.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    And how do you do that using GUI? The exact same way, looking blindly and playing random videos (or name the file properly in the first place).

    Thumbnails? Or maybe searching through find, which is not as straight forward as something like search in dolphin.

    Also "name the file properly in the first place" is such an off putting mentality. I want my computer to simplify work by doing things for me, not need to properly catalog every random video because of the failures of my UI.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Name the file properly, say that to a photographer with 3 cameras and an auto export. This is what thumbs and a gui are built for.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

    Same. When I’m importing 10-15k photos from a 3 day trip (motorsports photography) there’s no way to name all of them effectively. A GUI is a requirement for photo management imo.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

    presses tab

    Woa, dude!