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    [–] zephr_c@lemm.ee 66 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Ubuntu ain't what it used to be. If you want a simple distro nowadays just go straight to the source with Debian. There's no real benefit to going with Ubuntu anymore, and community distros are just a safer bet. Corporate distros aren't your friend.

    [–] GhostsAreShitty@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

    I'm very happy with debian. So many applications ship a .deb, and you don't have to deal with the Canonical bullshit.

    [–] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
    [–] cevn@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

    Yea it sorta just works and has a lot of community support. Imo the easiest of the distros which is not a bad thing. Turn off snaps and it basically is golden. Never needed backups in like 10 years because I know how to fix everything. The only thing that fucks up at this point is Nvidia but same thing has happened to me on Fedora.

    Im fighting with you brother

    [–] KingOfPotatoes@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    So does debian not have like 4 years old packages anymore in stable or do I have to live in bleeding edge unstable?

    [–] zephr_c@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

    There was just a new release, so nothing that old for now, but by the time the next release comes around this one will be getting long in the tooth, no doubt. Debian isn't for everyone, but if you need the latest version as a native app then you're not any better off with Ubuntu at this point. Debian is stable and secure and you can use flatpaks, appimages, or even snaps if you're feeling nasty to get any apps that you really need to be up to date. That's not what everyone wants, but for those people I'd recommend something like Arch, Fedora, or OpenSUSE, not Ubuntu. Ubuntu has just been neglecting the desktop for a while now, and it shows. They were the best once. Now everyone has passed them.

    [–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

    Debian and Ubuntu LTS are both ~2 year cycles, but Debian has traditionally been better than Ubuntu at picking up security fixes

    If you sign up for Ubuntu Pro, they might be as good as Debian, now, but I haven’t checked

    If you want faster than that, something other than Debian makes sense

    [–] sznio@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

    There's also "testing" in between. It's not as stable as - well - "stable", but I didn't have trouble with it.

    [–] veng@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    What about with a laptop where you can't disable secure boot? Ubuntu works with it ootb, very few other distros do.

    [–] zephr_c@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

    I don't actually think there is literally no scenario where Ubuntu makes sense, especially if someone else is limiting your options. For the record though, I think Fedora has gotten to be a better Ubuntu then Ubuntu, and it works with secure boot out of the box.