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[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Cruxifux@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I just perused the Wikipedia page, doesn’t seem like a boogeyman to me. Considering it’s backed by the Heritage Foundation. It seems horrifying to be honest.

[–] alternative_factor@kbin.social 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't worry. I'm sure they don't really mean to install Trump as the president for life, make LGBTQ+ illegal, instill Christianty as the state religion, deploy the military for law enforcement, etc, etc. Hitler didn't REALLY mean he was gonna kill millions of people!

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think they can pull it off. it's a ghost story.

[–] alternative_factor@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Let me guess- if you are American you stopped hanging out with your right-wing neighbors/family? Because for some insane reason, I didn't. This is 100% what they actually believe. They really think that anything left of Trump is part of the deep state conspiracy, homeschool their kids, think that bringing back "god" in school/state will fix everything, that Trump will save the country, etc, etc. Some of them already know about project 2025 and have greeted it with thunderous applause, the rest of the right will too.
If you are not American, fuck off. You have no idea how bad the right-wingers really have become

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

you don't know anything about me

this whole comment is attacking me personally rather than refuting anything I said

[–] DasAlbatross@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because you said nothing other than "Nuh uh"

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You haven't made any statements worth refuting, you've only given your unsubstantiated personal opinion.

that's not a reason to make personal attacks

[–] Cruxifux@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (8 children)

You didn’t say anything of actual value comrade. Explain to me why you think something backed by the heritage foundation, which is a big money organization and not something to be taken lightly, holds no weight? I’m not American, but seeing this makes me worried for Americans. It seems like Republican takeover of a huge amount of power in the states.

The democrats are atrocious for leftist movements. This is not debatable. But this is death of the leftist movement in America shit as far as I can tell. It seems like a huge leap towards Christo-fascism if attainable. I don’t see it as something that should just be ignored on any level. Why do you feel that it is? Maybe you know something I don’t.

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[–] Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Its not, but plenty of Lemmy accounts are running around with a vested interest of convincing one and all that Biden and Dump are the exact same candidate and not voting is the answer. Its why theyll spam anything and everything about the Gaza genocide to the front page while not so sneakily inserting comments like this or, "gEnOciDe JoE" in the middle of it all.

[–] Krono@lemmy.today 15 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Or maybe people have a legitimate moral concern when their country is aiding and abetting an ongoing genocide?

[–] docAvid@midwest.social 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Two things can be happening. People with a legitimate moral concern, such as myself, don't actively act against that concern by helping elect a candidate who would make that concern even worse. There are ways to express our anger and sorrow about Biden's handling of this without supporting Trump.

[–] Krono@lemmy.today 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Biden is going to lose if he continues his genocidal policy in Gaza.

People like me put pressure on the Biden admin to change course. By engaging in good faith criticism, I am trying to get Biden elected.

People who refuse to criticize Biden enable him to continue on this losing path. Enabling the worst of the Biden administration's policies is helping to elect Trump.

[–] docAvid@midwest.social 12 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Yes, I completely agree, so far as I can without looking up your post and comment history to confirm that you do what you are saying here you do, but taking your word for that. Good faith criticism isn't what Pan_Ziemniak seemed to be describing.

[–] Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago

I left a reply to the other reply under ur comment, if ur curious to hear me elaborate on the patterns im describing. As u stated, it is not good faith criticism that im railing against. Theres not a person i know who doesnt criticize Biden, but thats not what im afraid of here.

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[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

(Spoiler)

If that means they take (in)action that lets Donnie win a second term, they don't

[–] Krono@lemmy.today 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Orange man is so bad that you'll actively support a genocide, very enlightened, great job.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Thanks! "orange man bad /s" really takes me back to the days I was scrolling r/con for laughs

Congrats on making it to Lemmy

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

The neoliberals here will have no problem adapting to life under fascism. It's a tale as old as time.

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[–] Albatross2724@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It's hard to get Americans to care about the death and destruction that occurs at the behest of the American Empire. People like the commenter above see the people of Syria, Palestine, Lebanon, Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, and so on as subhuman cannon fodder. Why should they care about the genocide of those they don't even see as human. In their eyes, all brown Muslim people and the spectrum of humanity that resides in these countries ravished by our foreign policy, are just simply terrorists. And when younger generations watch these horrors unfold in real time on social media, and advocate for human rights, the knee-jerk reaction of Congress is to ban a social media platform rather than to have any meaningful impact on the situation, as their MIC/corporate/AIPAC donors have dictated.

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[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

>Lemmy accounts are running around with a vested interest of convincing one and all that Biden and Dump are the exact same candidate

if this were true you could show one.

[–] Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

^^^

Ill add return2ozma, linkerbaan, and tokenboomer off the top of my head. Each karmawhoring to keep themselves visible.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Also nudding whos crawled out of the woodwork. And they have, but the bulk of their work is spamming only the news they want u to see.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if they had said that it would be trivial to link.

[–] Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol by sifting thru entire accounts and ignoring what i said about their shifting the public view towards where American adversaries want it? But u seem very keen on defending their entire post history... hmmm.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

if your claim that they want to convince one and all that the two candidates are the exact same were true, you wouldn't need to do any meaningful sifting.

it's not true, though. the only time you will find anyone talking about them being the same are people (in bad faith) accusing others of having that position.

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>Each karmawhoring to keep themselves visible.

i don't think you understand how lemmy's vote system works.

[–] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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>not voting is the answer

no one said that

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they couldn't keep bush 1 in office, no one takes their economic freedom index seriously, they didn't stop Obamacare... they're a joke.

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