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WASHINGTON, D.C. -- After narrowly backing Israel’s military action in Gaza in November, Americans now oppose the campaign by a solid margin. Fifty-five percent currently disapprove of Israel’s actions, while 36% approve.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

still trying to villify israel i see.

fatah seems to be doing ok after accepting the fact that israel and palestine can co-exist. hamas o. the other hand wanted 1967 borders whithout recognizing israel and wants jurusalem as its capital. 1967 borders, israel can compromise, if land swaps and national security are addressed. Jurusalem as Palestine's capital per hamas?? yes no fucking way and hamas knows that for sure.

if israel wanted more lands,they will never have left gaza nor west bank. the settlers problem has been a thorny issues amongst the radical jewish population,its hasn't gone unnoticed and we all know that needs addressing.

dude you trying so hard to villify israel isn't helping your credibility and you are beginning to sound like those hamas propagandist/apologist on overdrive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So coexistence to you is occupation? You hand-wave away all the overwhelming evidence of Apartheid and Settler Colonialism.

The state allows settlers to use land violently taken from Palestinians. Dozens of outposts and “farms” – settlements for all intents and purposes, which were built without authorization by the government and without plans that enable construction in them – receive support from Israeli authorities and remain standing. Israel has ordered the military to defend the outposts or paid for their security, as well as paved roads and laid down water and electricity infrastructure for most of them. It has provided support through various government ministries, the Settlement Division of the World Zionist Organization and regional councils in the West Bank. It has also subsidized financial endeavors in the outposts, including agricultural facilities, provided support for new farmers and for shepherding, allocated water and legally defended outposts in petitions for their removal.

Violence committed by settlers against Palestinians has been documented since the very early days of the occupation. It is recorded in countless government documents and dossiers, in thousands of testimonies from Palestinians and soldiers, in books, in reports by Palestinian, Israeli and international human rights organizations – including B’Tselem, from its inception – and in thousands of media stories. Yet this ongoing, comprehensive documentation has had almost no effect on settler violence against Palestinians, which has long since become part and parcel of life under the occupation in the West Bank.

Settler Violence is State Violence and has been intentional.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

co-existence is accepting the facts that 1 entity has a right to exist just as any other and you do not arbitrary decide how far back in time to determine who stole whose home.

next, israeli settlers illegally settling in land that does not belong to them is a problem that needs solving,this has been made very clear,your magnification of the violence doesn't negate that fact other than pushing your bias narratives.

hamas never stopped declaring their aim to wipe israel from existence, despite their renewed charter.the fancy words they used serve nothing but to hoodwink the less sophisticated.

if your logic prevails,then prc,timor leste,previous soviet states or even america has no right to exist because they stole,occupy and settled in lands that does not belong to them and the original inhabitants should wage terror attacks on the populance because,you know,these people are stealing lands of their great grand father or however far back in time these terrorists chose.

it's sad that you have, on multiple times, try to push your bias agenda and narratives and each time you are only serving to highlight your bias.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Israel has never had intentions of coexistence, it was founded on Settler Colonialism... You're white washing ethnic cleansing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

hamas never had any intentions of co-existence only genocide and terrorism.

you are and have been justifying hamas terrorism and crimes as the aspirations of palestinians,disgusting to say the least.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You're literally wrong. Has Hamas done war crimes? Yes. You don't need to make things up to not like Hamas. I've provided so many resources to learn the history. Instead you'd rather justify settler Colonialism, ethnic cleansing, and collective punishment. When you do that, it's clear you don't see Palestinians as human beings.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i could say the same to you.

unlike you,i do not solely focus on one side's atrocities to paint the other like some kind of victim.

you are literally a hamas apologist using palestinians to push your agenda for genocide.your resources aren't exactly neutral to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm literally advocating for ending the genocide and equal rights.

Read the Reports on Apartheid and learn for yourself

Amnesty International Report

Human Rights Watch Report

B'TSelem Report with quick Explainer

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

and i am clearly saying there are no good guys in this conflict,no one side has the moral high ground over the other.

palestine and israel have the right to exist and to overly focus on the elimination/vilification of one over the other is not going to solve anything let alone your so called ending of genocide or equal rights.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Israel was founded on ethnic cleansing and settler colonialism, directly responsible for the ongoing apartheid, and is currently engaging in genocide.

I'm not saying Hamas if good. The majority of Palestinians don't either. Palestinians deserve a free and fair election to choose their representatives, but that's not really possible living under a violent apartheid. Israel has prevented any peace solution. Armed militant groups like Hamas are the only ones fighting against the apartheid.

This is a war between the occupied and the occupier.

To Israel, Palestinians have never had any right to exist, or human rights, or civil rights.

I agree with New Historians on a One-State Solution. If you're genuinely interested in the history of the conflict, you should read their books. They are significantly more detailed than any article and written with a huge amount of sources from both sides of the story.

The book 'A History of Modern Palestine: One Land, Two Peoples' by Ilan Pappe has a detailed account of the history since the early 1920s

How Avi Shlaim moved from two-state solution to one-state solution

‘One state is a game changer’: A conversation with Ilan Pappe

History of peace process

One State Solution, Foreign Affairs

10 Myths of Israel

Palestine and Israel: Mapping an annexation

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you would have made a strong case...if you weren't a hamas propagandist. i am now suspecting you are anti jewish as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What is wrong with you.

Anti-zionism and criticism of the state of Israel are not at all the same as antisemitism. Israel and its actions have never and will never represent all Jewish people, regardless of how much they try to claim so.

If you're conflating the two, you are being antisemitic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

so far,i have been equally critical of israel and hamas.

based off your links and articles,seems like the one villifying and conflating is you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Please tell me how I am conflating antisemitism and anti-zionism. You're the one who claimed I'm antisemitic when I've been exclusively talking about Israel.

My main sources are B'TSelem, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, Ilan Pappe, Nur Mursalha, and Avi Shlaim.