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Biden administration set to greenlight $18 billion sale of F-15 fighter jets to Israel
(edition.cnn.com)
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If recent history is our guide, these jets will be immediately used to murder civilians if they attempt to get food or medicine from aid stations.
Israel is completely invested in genocide at the moment. They don't need our help to defend from foreign nations. They already have everything they need for that, yet are using it all to commit genocide. Every single thing we send them right now is being used for genocide.
We get absolutely nothing in return for spending billions a year on Israel. Nothing. They use absolutely everything we send them to commit atrocities. Why are we sending them anything at all? We need to get out of this insane, valueless, one-sided relationship.
If by "we" you mean America then I would say that America gets an ally right in the heart of the Arab world, which is frequently opposed to American ideologies. The strategic location is enough to justify the American government's investment in Israel because it facilitates the US foreign policy, for better or for worse.
I'm not defending their's or Israel's actions. I'd just like to remind everyone that the whole region is tense and complex. It has always been. Oversimplification of the issues leads to even more conflict, in my opinion.
Israel does not offer the U.S. any strategic advantage in the middle east at all. In addition to carriers in the Med at all times, multiple NATO members like Greece and Turkey are right there in the area. We do not need Israel at all. Not even a little.
OK. I apologize for treating this like a multifaceted issue.
What tangible military benefit has the US received from Israel beyond using it as a base in the middle east?
We don't even use it as a base. We have something like 18 bases in varying other countries in the Middle East.
That's exactly my point. Israel is a US military base, from which it conducts a variety of operations in the region. It is very valuable to US foreign policy.
Unfortunately the Biden administration has accepted that sponsoring genocide is a fair price to pay in exchange for that advantageous position in the middle east.
No it isn't. It's just straight up not a base. Stop spreading this lie.
You seem to know a lot about US military activity. Which branch are you in?
I was in the Army. But this is public information.
So what do you think is the reason why the US is giving so much advanced weaponry to Israel?
If it were the GOP I'd say conservative Christians and call it a day. But it's honestly baffling. It's like a puzzle with a missing piece. He's not getting an electoral bump from it (in fact some key states are in danger now). Our other allies are seriously concerned. Our Arab allies who host our bases in that region are pissed. And there's no actual need for more planes or 2,000lb bombs. About the only things that fill the hole in the puzzle are a personal belief in Zionism; paying the military industrial complex; or he believes war with Iran is happening in the next term. There is no political reason for him to be dying on this hill.
I'm right there with you. Is someone disgusted by what Israel is doing, Lemmy is a cesspool of propaganda sometimes.
That's how extremism spreads...
So we pick a new vassal state.
Easy fucking peasy.