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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, a handful of BestBuy employees accepted payments from the FBI to report on CP found on a customers device. So let's all feel good about underpaid workers losing their jobs in this economy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's up to you, but over here it looks like an abuse of power and a violation of trust. If they can't be trusted not to look at the data they're trying to restore (except directly in the service of restoring it) they they can't be trusted with a business PC containing accounting data or legal correspondence either.

And a violation of trust in the service of law enforcement is still a violation of trust in the public. Considering how this would poison the service for business clients, I am surprised it doesn't run contrary to Best Buy terms of employment (outside of mandated reporting, which is why mandated reporting laws exist for some cases).

On the other hand AT&T will gladly spooge your phone call records to the police if they ask for it. (No warrant necessary.) And Amazon's Ring doorbell videos are sold to law enforcement whenever they want it (without permission of the doorbell owners.) But that's finally resulted in trouble, and Amazon is rethinking this service.

It is interesting that in this economy which is intentionally managed to create a shortage of jobs and to lower wages, that employees are expected to betray the public trust and even engage in illegal activity at the behest of their employers just to stay employed, and that some of us might find this as an acceptable state of affairs. And yes, when business goes sour for the company, those employees will be discarded with no additional acknowledgment for their loyalty.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's up to you, but over here it looks like an abuse of power and a violation of trust. If they can't be trusted not to look at the data they're trying to restore (except directly in the service of restoring it) they they can't be trusted with a business PC containing accounting data or legal correspondence either.

Have you ever done data recovery? Because I have, and part of recovery includes accessing random files to ensure they were restored/recovered correctly. I don't go digging for incriminating shit, but I do have to make sure the data is readable before I hand it over to the client.

And you can be goddamned sure that if I see CSAM on your machine I'm turning you over to the police and I'll gladly forego payment to see your ass in bracelets.i have professional ethics, but those don't include protection of child abusers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If you're doing data recovery for a large enough tech firm (such as Best Buy's Geek Squad service, you may be a mandated reporter of CSAM that you come across, depending on your state and the policy of your company, but in that case the CSAM in question is probably pretty obvious, either labeled as such or the first directory you hopped into.

id est, not because you scanned the drive's unused blocks specifically looking for it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Imagine rooting for pedophiles.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is interesting that in this economy which is intentionally managed to create a shortage of jobs and to lower wages, that employees are expected to betray the public trust and even engage in illegal activity at the behest of their employers just to stay employed, and that some of us might find this as an acceptable state of affairs. And yes, when business goes sour for the company, those employees will be discarded with no additional acknowledgment for their loyalty.

I fully agree with the point you are making here. It's a fucked up system with a whole mess of badly designed incentives that cause people to be shitty to each other.

My only disagreement is with your willingness to condemn innocent people who lost their jobs over the actions of a few. I worked for GeekSquad, data privacy violations were not only a fireable offense but also something those I worked with prided themselves on protecting. All of my coworkers were privacy advocates and enthusiasts who did not go digging through anyone's personal data. Rather, oftentimes they would try to help clients be more informed, even risking their own job stability when doing so lost sales.

There are good folks who didn't deserve to lose their jobs, were not guilty of the actions you are upset over, and don't deserve people callously implying they deserved it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I worked for GeekSquad, data privacy violations were not only a fireable offense but also something those I worked with prided themselves on protecting.

This is news to me, and it's commendable regardless of whether it's standard policy for Geek Squad, or just specific to your Best Buy location. At any rate it's good to know the conversation was had within the office.

FBI has been pursuing its mission in bad faith for decades now. Longer than when James Comey was in office. In 2002 it changed from law enforcement to national security as much for the budget increase, and its methods, whether in curbing CSAM distribution or in pursuing Islamist terrorists, were less about making the nation safer for the public and more about fabricating credit for the agency. But then it was just as reprehensible in the J. Edgar Hoover years, and it's only because of serial killer fiction that I might have imagined better.

At least since the 1990s, law enforcement across the nation has lost its impartiality. I can't say they protected and served much in the 1980s or before, but they certainly have not since the aughts. Being involved with them, such as working as an informant, is just as problematic as being involved with the mob. Possibly more so in the 2020s.