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I mean the heat island effect is real.
But as someone who lives in NYC but grew up in the south: It's not hotter in NYC.
We just are actually outside, unlike all southerners who don't do manual labor. Rain or shine, freeze or burn, NYC is in the 100 year old unventilated subway tunnels with trains venting the heat from their ACs in the summer.
It's not actually hotter.
But if you come to visit in August you'll sweat more in NYC than August in Dallas.
NYC does empty out a bit in August, but yeah I've been in Houston in the summer. People pre cool their cars in their garages and move from one ac island to the next.
Yeah I get to commute in that heat. It's not fun.
But I'll keep it over car dependant sprawl any day. I moved from the south to NYC for a reason: and it wasn't just better job opportunities.
You just HAD to get that last little thing in there, I guess just to prove that you're a real adopted New Yorker.
I mean, you literally just explained how it's NOT really hotter in NYC, but you couldn't resist pushing back on it. Yes, if you go outside in the summer, you'll be warmer than if you stay inside. I will indeed have to admit that. But if you do the same amount of walking around in Dallas as you do in NYC, in August? You might actually get heatstroke.
Wait. I guess that DOES mean you'll sweat less, in Dallas. Like, as long as you keep walking around long enough. One of the symptoms of advanced heatstroke is a sudden inability to sweat. You die dry as a bone.
EDIT: I'm not saying you can't get heatstroke in NYC. You can. But it takes a lot longer for it to happen, if you're walking around in 80-90 degree weather, versus 100-110.
I didn't say hotter, I said you'll sweat more.
Grew up in the south: I know how little you fuckers go outside. I was one of those fuckers.
AC to AC with the exception of going to the swimming pool/beach/river/lake.
If you're a manual laborer you'll sweat more in the south, no doubt. Otherwise?
NYC is the capitol of white collar sweat.
Fair enough. I mean, if you have to gerrymander the exact, specific terms that you're talking about, then yes. I have to agree. Stockbrokers spend more time outside of climate-controlled spaces in NYC, compared to other major cities.
When it comes right down to it, it was simply idiotic to build cities in the hot-as-fuck zones of the planet, to begin with. Even suburbs have heat-bubbles clinging to them, so that we really can't be outside all that much, without actually risking heatstroke, like I was saying.
As a civilization, it would have made a whole hell of a lot more sense to keep building even more densely in the Northeast. There's shitloads of land in upstate New York and New Jersey that would have supported more cities, let alone the whole region.
I guess it comes down to the pure, unbridled evil of colonial-era white people. Moving out West and down South, into areas that are literally deadly for three months out of the year was just fine, as long as it was the black and/or brown people being worked to death in the heat.
And, ya know, poor folks in general. Same as ever.