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I hate that search engine degradation is what’s lead me to use AI more. Instead of searching past pages full of 8 ads for a waffle recipe, I ask Copilot or something: “Give me a basic waffle recipe”.
So much computation to go back to what the web used to be great at.
I knew Google started ignoring double quotes for required text years ago, but I found out yesterday that it doesn't even think "site:xyz.com" needs to be followed.
I was researching something and saw some Reddit posts. Clicked below it to view results from Reddit and a third of them were other websites.
There are literally tens of thousands of examples of them ignoring any and all of their operators on Reddit and Google help. You can find them easily if you look.
They ignore any and all of their operators if there is more money to be made by doing so.
I know Lemmy doesn't like it, but Kagi is really great
Lemmy doesn't like it for a reason.
Im a massive proponent of FOSS, But I have not heard a single sustainable FOSS model for maintaining free search engines. It just takes so much capital to operate.
I think a paid model is much better than a privacy disrespecting / ad driven one.
if its individually paid, you don't have privacy.
It is if they dont store search queries, which they claim they dont. I have no reason to distrust them.
FOSS and paid are not mutually exclusive, but Kagi is not FOSS and of dubious transparency/trustworthiness.
Also Kagi is not operating a search engine, but a search aggregator mostly dependent on Google. They don't need much upfront capital to operate.
An actual search indexer competitive with Google is too expensive to be profitable without (tens of) millions of paid users or hundreds of millions of free ones (i.e. bing and maaaaybe yandex?).
True google alternatives are therefore only going to come out of big capital (MSFT), or less likely a government (EU?) funded company. There might be an argument to be made for decentralized search as well, but the only actual contender in that field right now is a crypto thing that probably relies mostly on bing/google. Still, a decentralized open indexer may actually make some sense in theory.
Right, but nobody hates google because ofits results. They hate that its privacy invasive.
Lemmy just likes shitting on popular things to feel superior
You keep on Kagi'ing
Lemmy loves Kagi. At least this Lemming does.
Bruh, you think Im a bot?
You said it was astroturfing, implying I was astroturfing.
Totally fair, sorry for the misunderstanding
Stop being reasonable and fight more for our amusement!
JK, good on you guys for being civil.
I just tell AI to google stuff for me and link me to the best results...let it wade through the ads and spam.
Kagi has a really neat feature that if you phrase your search in the form of a question and add a question mark to the end of it, it'll summarize all of the top results and give footnotes to the pages that it evaluated. It saves me tons of time!