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[–] NekoKamiGuru@kbin.social 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Exactly , rather than only forgiving existing loans that should make education free and also forgive existing loans , and perhaps give people who have already paid off their loan some kind of stimulus check as a kind of recognition that their struggle was just as hard as everyone else's and they deserve a break too.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

What about those of us that didn't go outright because we couldn't afford it nor get the loans?

... I'd still be more than happy if education was made free, but there are A LOT of people the system has fucked and Democrats barely even want to glance at the lowest hanging fruit.

[–] trebuchet@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Isn't the lowest hanging fruit exactly what they're targeting, i.e. the people who currently have loans, and the higher hanging fruit all the other circumstances people are mentioning here like already paid off their loans or future student who will get loans or in your case people who forewent becoming a student due to the loans?

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yew, my point is they are ONLY targeting the lowest hanging fruit.

I bring it up NOT to just poopoo on Democrats, but to offer perspective. An inflatable life raft should NEVER be viewed as a fully functioning, sea-worthy vessel, and inflatable rafts is all Democrats ever offer, let alone fight for.

Yes, that's better than the sabotaged canoe Republicans offer, but again, it's about perspective. Some people are not OK with celebrating a dingy like it's a ship.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Again. No one who is for student loan forgiveness is outright against assistance for low wage earners. They are not linked. If its who gets the bite at the apple first than do every thing you can to remove the GOP from power.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"They are not linked", exactly, they're choosing to leave some people behind.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They are not chosing anything. They are politically cornered.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Keep buying the excuses while you're given crumbs. It really makes it look like you understand just how little you're being offered...

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It isn't an excuse. It's plain as day that the Republicans will do nothing on both matters and they keep getting elected.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yea, keep wondering why while pretending Democrats aren't still a lesser evil. Notice how "lesser evil" is still evil. It doesn't matter how much you screech about which is better. Some don't like voting for anything evil.

Ignore a basic fact of reality at your own peril.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Scare tactics. Nice. Glad we have devolved. Means the debate is most likely over.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not scaring you to do anything but realize you have no saviors to choose from. Do not view the Dems as a WIN, but as merely staving off destruction.

Pretending we are in any kind of good shape is pure foolishness.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Kinda like chosing the lesser of two evils? Would you say?

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Pretending the lesser evil is a good choice is pure stupidity. Do better.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm not fucking happy about it at all and I've said so since 2020. Quit it with the angst and lashing out. This all ends when we collectively say it ends. Until then it's fuck fuck games of protecting the innocent.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Peril? Ominous. Please do expand on your revelry.