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You honestly think the people posting this sentiment don’t want Netanyahu to stop? That’s a silly opinion if so. Maybe you disagree with the logic being used, but you can’t say these people actively want Netanyahu to continue what he’s doing.
I want this to end as much as you, but it is undeniable that Biden is a better candidate than Trump in this respect. And in our country there are only 2 options so vote for. So if I’m not voting for Biden, I am just helping Trump get in office and do more harm.
I don't know. They sure as hell don't want Biden to stop supporting Netanyahu's genocide.
Then they should pressure Biden to stop supporting Netanyahu's genocide. They won't. They get mad at people who say Biden should stop supporting genocide instead.
Yeah.
Yes. He should still stop supporting genocide. Maybe centrists should say so.
You can be 2 things at the same time. This whole thread is about voting. It’s possible to pressure Biden while also voting against the undeniably worse candidate.
What doesn’t make sense is voting in a way that will end up significantly worse for Gaza and saying you’re doing that because you can’t possibly support Biden.
Then centrists should start doing the former in addition to the latter.
Instead, they scream that anyone who does the former wants trump.
I think when you joint a thread that’s about voting, or references voting, these are the comments you’re going to see. Doesn’t means we’re “centrists”, just means we care about the election results IN ADDITION TO the state of our world.
If you care about election results, you should be doing everything you can to pressure Biden to abandon a losing issue.
If not "centrist", what term would you prefer for people who would rather support genocide and lose to Trump with all that entails than abandon support for genocide and win?
I’d call person a strawman.
And yet, I'm not seeing centrists pressuring Biden to stop supporting genocide.
Probably cause centrists don’t care about Gaza as much as liberals. I don’t know cause I’m not a centrist. I’m a liberal that doesn’t like what’s going on in Gaza, but will vote against Trump no matter what happens.
And I'm a progressive who has said multiple times in this thread that I'm voting for Biden. I bitterly resent being manipulated into voting in a way that renders me monstrous, and I hope he stops supporting genocide.
Well, I don’t think somebody voting against Biden because of his Israel position is a monster. I think they are misguided and playing directly into the hands of Trump who would do even more harm to Gaza.
How many times do I have to say that I'M VOTING FOR BIDEN? I resent being manipulated into doing so because such a vote will render me monstrous.
You may be eager to vote for supporting genocide. You may be delighted to give Biden a mandate to keep up the good work of sending weapons to murder Palestinian children. The very idea makes me sick.
I get it, that’s why I said somebody and not you. I don’t really know what your point is. You resent being manipulated into doing some something you’re already doing?
And simply pointing out that anybody voting against Biden is just playing into the hands of Trump who would do worse things is not being manipulative. That is pointing out a fact that we both can agree on.