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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I remember your previous comments but nice try

FYI when you write out a thesis about how no one could be doing something for a genuine reason then that reinforces previous reasons to think you're a conservative

[–] mister_monster@monero.town 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I didn't say no one, I said 90%, and that I personally have never met one of those 10%. Plenty of people are genuine, just not most people loudly championing holier than thou causes.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

So you're claiming that you've known a significant number of sexual assaulters but no other type of male who calls themselves a feminist?

Personally I could've seen your point if everything you wrote about it, along with past statements, hadn't rubbed me the wrong way. It was like you were just waiting to find a way to bring down "feminists".

[–] mister_monster@monero.town 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Most men I know are what you'd call feminists. They don't beat their wives, don't expect women to be virgins, like women to have careers, that kind of stuff, comfortable and happy with competent, confident independent women and want that for their daughters. But none of them go out of their way to let everyone know how important women's rights are to them, and of the handful that I've met that did, I'd catch them salivating at 13 year olds, "false assault allegations" in their past, or just have an undeniable fucking creep vibe to them. This one high school teacher I met that got outraged at me over asking him if he's ever been attracted to a student is on the registry now for fucking underage students. There's one particularly prominent example that comes to mind (that I won't go into details about) that was by far the most culture warrior man I've ever met that turned out was a complete predator and scumbag who should be dead. Needless to say I don't hang around people once I get that kind of understanding of their character. These people have all been friend of a friend type acquaintances, and a few have been short term boyfriends of feministy female friends of mine who have agreed with my sentiment wholeheartedly since then.

You look at all the me too people in the public eye, almost every single one of them was out front with the activism. It's just my experience, people that go out of their way to let everyone know they're a Good Person™ usually have all kinds of unsavory shit they want to keep from getting out. It's like the preacher that's molesting little boys while telling people they'll burn for being gay, but the left leaning version.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Okay so you're all about suspicion toward people who need you to know their morals. So then what does it say about your need to let everyone know you're not like those "feminists"?

Also I don't think your me too comment checks out at all. Harvey Weinstein was not an "activist " for women. Nor was Kevin Spacey, R Kelly, Bill Cosby, Garrison Keillor, etc. the only example I can think of where you could have a point would be Louis CK. So yeah, far from "almost every single one of them".

And finally, you extrapolated all of this shit from that one sentence in the article... Not a good look

[–] mister_monster@monero.town 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I don't need anyone to know anything about me. I just brought it up because it was something funny in the article about a sexually assaulting feminist.

Those men besides R Kelly all very much put themselves into pro feminist ads, made pro feminist public statements and the like.

I don't care of it's a good look, I'm just talking to people on the internet, sharing my lived experience lol

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

pro feminist ads

...TIL that's a thing (it's not)

I find it incredibly unlikely that anyone ever considered Harvey Fucking Weinstein to be a champion of women. It was actually quite well known that he was a pervert, if anything

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

I respect that chaotic neutral energy but occasionally it's worth the time figuring out how to throw the dice so your craps shoot doesn't land snake eyes.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Your anecdotal experiences do not translate into people as a whole.

[–] mister_monster@monero.town 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'd say it's a good heuristic, and one shared by many.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'd say the fact that pretty much everyone here is disagreeing with you suggests the opposite is true.

[–] mister_monster@monero.town 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

This network is not a neutral place full of unbiased, rational people.

Nobody's really arguing as to how I'm wrong, just mostly drive by down voting and saying "nuhuh!" Also see TrickDacy above, who says he can see my point but is still arguing because he didn't like how I said it.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Interesting that you find your own anecdotal evidence to be valid, but the anecdotal evidence I presented, which can actually be demonstrated to be true rather than what you claim to be true but can't back up, is not valid.

[–] mister_monster@monero.town 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I haven't seen you present a single anecdote at all.

One snake bite is an anecdote. Two snake bites is data. Snakes bite.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This would be the anecdote:

I’d say the fact that pretty much everyone here is disagreeing with you suggests the opposite is true.

123 downvotes on your initial comment sounds like data to me.

Again, seems like you have a bit of a double-standard.

[–] mister_monster@monero.town 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Downvotes is data lol this guy what were you born yesterday? That's not an anecdote man do you know what an anecdote is?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It is as much data as "people I talk to agree with me."

[–] mister_monster@monero.town 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I said more than that and you know it.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

What part of what you said is non-anecdotal? What part has actual evidence to back it up?

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 3 points 11 months ago

I just want to be in the screen shot of the copy pasta.

[–] locuester@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I said 90%

No you didn’t.

EDIT: yeah they did

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] locuester@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago

Doh - yeah, they absolutely did. Edited.