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[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sure, I fantasize about doing this sort of shit with my kid sometimes too.

But you don't do it.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What, are you saying that gaslighting your young child to do stuff they hate is harmful?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I can't speak for other kids, but being honest with mine seems to work pretty well. "Why do I have to put away the dishes?" "Because if you don't, we won't be able to wash the dirty ones and then we'll get roaches. Do you want roaches? No. So put away the dishes."

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's the tack I'm taking with mine. No sense in lying because it's not good for your relationship, and I can't be bothered to keep track of a bunch of lies.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I didn't even like doing Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny, but my wife insisted. I'm glad that era is over.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Feel you. I got accused by my brother in law of being some kind of psychopath for not wanting Santa in the house.

In their house, my sister is already using the threat of Christmas big brother against any minor hijinks that their kid gets up to.

I have a three year old, so unfortunately, I have another 4 years of this nonsense ahead of me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In their house, my sister is already using the threat of Christmas big brother against any minor hijinks that their kid gets up to.

Oof, that seems a bit much to me. Does she tell stories about the bogeymen or Baba Yaga, too? I'd rather my child be concerned with the actual consequences for their actions rather than the imagined ones

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's some research that says Santa, the Easter bunny, etc. are good for teaching kids skepticism. Plus it's fun. I'll often move their stuffed animals so it looks like they were doing something when the kids are asleep so they can get a little bit of magic

But, threatening with Santa is actually bad parenting because #1 it's a bit traumatic of a threat but #2 they'll figure out damn fast that you're bluffing. Never threaten a punishment you aren't prepared to dish out (and never dish out a punishment you wouldn't feel comfortable explaining to the kid as an adult)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But you would still be able to wash the dirty ones. This is just a lighter lie (which imo is totally fine).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (49 children)

Where would I put the dirty dishes so I could wash them if the sink is already full?

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure if the term "gaslighting" fits here. This just seems like run of the mill lying and manipulating.

Victims of gaslighting are deliberately and systematically fed false information that leads them to question what they know to be true, often about themselves. They may end up doubting their memory, their perception, and even their sanity.

Gaslighting would seem like it'd be more that if they knew weekends were a thing befohand then you'd lie that they imagined it all (and that they might even be crazy for having thought that).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao I like to use buzzwords too even when they don't fit the situation.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (7 children)

its called a white lie. You tell kids them all the time

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure... If you want to seriously undermine any trust you've built up with your kid when they're older.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tell kids the truth when they're older, but you cant reason with a young kid about everything.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That doesn't mean you have to lie. Just tell them they have to go to school, and that's that. Don't make up a story to manipulate them.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

..and then they'll never trust you fully again. Ever.

This is the most shortsighted shit I've seen in a long time.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Young kids are extremely receptive to self-fullfilling prophecies, and very flexible. If they hate school, it's better to find out why and try to see if you can get them to like school. You can kinda trick them by trying to associate school with fun, talk about how much you enjoyed school as a kid, and try to get them to talk about things they did that they liked at school. Or the flip side is maybe you'll learn that there's something serious you need to help handle as a parent

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

That's not a white lie. It's just a lie.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

U fecking dumbass

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