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Interesting article that talks about the similarities between now and 1938, and the sort of lessons we can learn from history.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, who started a land war in February 2022?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

did world history suddenly begin on February 2022?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

February 2022? Hmm, did Russia ever stopped invading neighbour countries?

No.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Russia was famously invaded multiple times by the same sorts of people they're fighting now.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Russia has been famously invaded by Ukraine, what?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You are really good at reading between the lines, but I'm referring to the wide array of foreign mercenaries mostly.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

None of those foreign mercenaries have invaded Russia. They are inside the borders of Ukraine defending Ukraine from invasion.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm not even the native english speaker here, but the line I responded with originally was:

Russia was famously invaded multiple times by the same sorts of people they’re fighting now.

there are French, German, UK, US and a wide array of european mercenaries there, all of those countries have had a part in invading Russia in the past, some of them multiple times.

The the original assertion that russia has never stopped invading places - I pointed out that it's been invaded repeatedly (US/UK/French expeditions during the civil war, Barbarossa, Napoleon to name a few) - which doesn't really line up with that image of an unstoppable invader.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You have to go back over 200 years to get France invading Russia. Russia invaded Paris in 1813. Everyone invaded everyone in the 1800's. Russia was invading all its neighbors in the 1800's.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Russia

The US/UK supporting the Russian Czar during the Civil War isn't an invasion.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The US/UK supporting the Russian Czar during the Civil War isn’t an invasion.

Yeah just like how this is special military operation!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There is no civil war in Ukraine and Putin recognizes Zelensky as the legitimate head of state. So not the same at all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

But the two republics are also recognized and did ask for help as well, hence the SMO- and idk what you would consider 2014-2022 in ukraine but civil war would be a fair description in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Only a few countries recognize Donbas.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_Donetsk_People%27s_Republic_and_the_Luhansk_People%27s_Republic

Yet Russia didn't defend Donbas but invaded all of Ukraine. They had troops outside of Kiev before being fought back.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Right, next the native americans will take the US back because historically it's theirs? Russia started a war, stop looking for excuses to cope.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

That's a weird comparison, given that Russia is and has always been a genocidal empire. A pertinent example is the renewed persecution of the Crimean Tatars under the present russian occupation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

that would be ideal, fuck the united states

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Before the United States the indigenous people had the Iroquois Confederation. It was a primary model for the founders of the United States. Not sure if or how native repossession changes modern geopolitics but it's a fun idea.