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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (6 children)

It’s right there in the name - Anti-FAscist. If someone thinks AnTiFA is bad, check if they’re waving fascist flags before engaging in any debate with them in a good faith.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

Conservatives are incapable of good faith arguments. It's completely pointless trying to argue with them about anything

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem is, they don’t think being anti-fascist is bad, they just don’t think the fascists that Antifa is against are actually fascists.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of them have no clue what antifa actually says or means — nor what facism actually means

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I’d wager almost none of them do.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And the DPRK has “democratic” in its name. There are so many better arguments to use.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And Nazis were originally socialist. The list goes on...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No, they weren't. They famously co-opted the "socialist" name because the actual socialists of the time were by far the largest voting base. It was an attempt to attract some of them to their own party.

Like everything a conservative does, putting the word "socialist" in the party name was deception and manipulation. It's like when conservatives append the word "freedom" or "family" to something that is absolutely not supportive of those values.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The far right party in Switzerland. Is called Union Democratique du Centre in French (Democratic Union of the Center).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Good to know. Thank you. I will use that as a modern example in the future.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'll bet you think FedEx is run by the government because it's got federal in the name.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wasn’t the issue the use of “antifa” by US “press” to describe anyone violent at any protest? I’m not American, here in EU it’s not a term that is used, at all.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

That's ultimately what it ended up being. 10 years ago your average person had never heard of it. And your average redneck was completely clueless about it. But over the last 10 years corporate media has turned it from an obscure group from World War II Europe. Into one of the new Boogeyman they constantly beat against.

This was largely due to the fact of the groups rather libertarian / anarchist structure. There aren't any real Representatives or any solid membership etc etc etc. Just a nebulous group that's easy to misrepresent.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Antifa movement originated in Germany.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Aunt Tifa is evil! /s