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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yes. There are 450 mi of tunnels according to Hamas in an area only 25 mi. wide.

It's the most advanced tunnel warfare system in the world. It has been under construction in various forms and stages since the '50s. It was built with money from Iran, North Korea, Qatar, and other beacons of human and civil rights. It is hopelessly intertwined with Gaza's water and electrical systems. It's the crowning achievement of gaza's current government.

It represents all of gaza's lost hope. Gaza would be deep in food right now if maybe they spent money on highways instead of tunnels. If maybe they spent money on ports instead of tunnels, had used their international relations for trade and diplomacy, instead of terror financing and tunneling.

But also due probability, I simply trust the IDF explanation about a million more times than I trust the explanation of anyone who supports Hamas's ideology. It's not only an ideology of violent radicalism, it is also an ideology of a lying and propaganda. According to them, nobody is a terrorist And no buildings are connected to tunnels, every building is a hospital or mosque or home for orphans, and every person is an innocent child.

I'm very sure that Israel has some liars in charge right now. I simply trust the liars from the democracy more than the liars from the fascist religious ethno State, the sole function of which is to proliferate anti-jewish terrorism.

I don't know that this particular building had a tunnel under it. Neither does anyone else here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

But also due probability, I simply trust the IDF explanation about a million more times than I trust the explanation of anyone who supports Hamas's ideology.

So by "probability" you mean that you feel that the IDF is less likely to lie than Hamas?

Despite saying (correctly)

I'm very sure that Israel has some liars in charge right now.

The thing is, we don't need to trust Hamas. There is a good chance there are tunnels under any particular building (far under but let's put a pin in that for now). So when Israel bombs a water facility, there is probably a tunnel at least close by, about 10 m down or whatever.

But the question isn't whether there's a tunnel. The question is what Israel is targeting. The only people who can answer that are those in the Israeli government and military, which you acknowledge contains "some liars." We don't even need to see what Hamas says. So why do you trust their explanation?