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[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, I know all about that, they use the " brown immigrants are terrorists" in my country too in order to exploit people's latent racism.

To have a point you'd have to compare those instances to violence by Europeans against eachother, by being selective you're feeding a narrative that brown immigrants are more violent than Europeans. That's already been demonstrated to be false. You're being manipulated by fascists.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Alright, name the 122 terrorist attacks made by Europeans since 2015. Ill wait.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So, even if we assume those 122 attacks were committed by immigrants, how does that compare to violent crimes committed by Europeans themselves? 122 incidents over 9 years is remarkably low for a single demographic. How many bad actors is that per event? How many immigrants are there total and how many committed these crimes?

It's racist fear mongering.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I said terrorist attacks, not violent crimes. Dont move the goal posts

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No ones moving goal posts. Give a ballpark of how many immigrants were involved in those 122 attacks.

You're making the argument that brown immigrants are more dangerous than Europeans and you're then trying to exclude all types of violent crime except that labeled terror attacks to obfuscate the reality that immigrants are statistically no more dangerous than Europeans themselves. It's dishonest.

Even in terms of terrorism, the majority has historically been committed by domestic groups (ex. nationalists, political extremists, separatists etc.), not immigrants. Again, this is very similar to my own country where domestic terrorism is actually the greater threat than that from immigrants.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Okay, you want to move the goal posts. Tell me, per capita, who commits more violent crime? Muslims or non-muslims?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Per capita, men commit more violent crime than women. It's not even close. Do you support restrictions on men just based on their gender?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

One is how youre born. The other is an ideology. What do you not understand about "Islam is an ideology"?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How does that address my point? The Y chromosome is the largest determining factor in violent crime, way more than any "ideology".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wait, so you dont understand why racism and sexism are bad? You know they're bad without understanding why?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can admit that you were destroyed by facts and logic. It's ok.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Right, Im just going to block you.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

You're obviously upset because you're a guy and you don't want to be excluded. Excluding Muslims doesn't affect you, because you're not Muslim.

You don't care about "violent crime". Your only real concern is not being in the out-group, because you really only care about hierarchy.