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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

A vote for Biden doesn't move America to the left?

Nope, we are currently a far-right country under Biden.

Insulin price cap, Medicare protection, student debt forgiveness, weed re-scheduling, etc.

Genocide, more aggressive crackdowns on immigrants than even under Trump, the recent anti-trans bill passing through a dem controlled senate, and more. What you listed isn't bad, but when taken in context with the entirety of Biden's platform it's clear he's a Neoliberal ghoul.

Compare that to defundingthe the EPA, mass deportations, one TRILLION dollars in tax breaks for the rich, etc.

Trump being more right wing doesn't mean electing Biden is a move to the left, it means maintaining Biden's right-wing agenda. If Biden gets reelected he isn't going to go to the left, he is going to continue pushing the DNC party line.

If you don't think 180.000 dead Palestinians is better than 360.000 dead Palestinians, that's a you problem.

Genocide is a non-starter, and unless Biden begins trying to appeal to his base and pull back the genocide, we will see well over 360,000 dead Palestinians under Biden.

And do i need to remind you of fucking Iraq? Guantanamo? Did America ever care about the international community and their opinion?

Voters tend to care, so being warhawkish and pushing genocide disengages voters.

Again, my point is crystal clear: blaming voters for being disengaged by Biden's warmongering and genocide, rather than blaming Biden and the DNC for maintaining their unpopular positions, is pointless. Focus on what can actually keep Trump from office, ie forcing the DNC to begin appealing more to voters.

It doesn't seem like you actually care if Trump takes office or not. That, or the current level of genocide is acceptable to you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you don't vote for Biden you'll see half a million dead Palestinians under trump.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If I vote for Biden I will see half a million dead Palestinians under Biden or Trump. I doubt Biden can even beat Trump, that's why he needs to either step down or appeal to his voterbase.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you don't appeal to me, I'll help the guy win who is even worse!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (23 children)

How are non-voters or third party voters that Biden already wasn't getting helping Trump? How is it 2020 Biden Voters fault that Biden is committing genocide and disengaging his own voterbase?

Nothing you've said makes any sense. If Biden wants the DNC to win, he needs to not commit genocide or step down. Simple.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A move from extreme right to right is a move to the left.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (25 children)

No it isn"t, it's a move from extreme right to right. Moving from far-right populism to Neoliberalism is not closer to Socialism, it's Capitalism in a different form. Politics and economics are not really a spectrum eith quantifiable numbers, they are positions, the spectrum is just shorthand.

Secondly, we are already right wing. Electing Biden again is not going to move him or his positions leftward, it's stagnating in the right wing.

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