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[–] LostWanderer 37 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Oh for fun! I don't want Mozilla to go down, Firefox is one of the few non-Chromium web browsers; I'm glad that Google is pronounced as a monopoly, as it is true. However, for every good thing, there is a terrible curse that shows how much our system needs to be changed. It will be so heartening to not have Apple using Google Search by default, as the results are fucking shit. They could survive the lack of Investor Daddy's cash.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if it will make apple create it’s own search engine or?

[–] LostWanderer 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I suspect that Apple will choose to open up the choice of what search engine a user would like to use instead of Google. To avoid playing favorites or getting into an oversaturated market.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

They could piss all their competitors off by investing a bit into a FOSS add-free search engine (and hosting it) and putting that as default

[–] LostWanderer 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

ROFL This is Apple we're talking about, the slowest to innovate in the tech space. That would be a Samsung maneuver, in my opinion (if that giant tech corpo would even consider a FOSS ad-free search engine). Apple is just now getting some customization options this September with an update, something Samsung and third party launchers have pretty much solved years ago.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Let me live in my fantasy land okay?

😂

[–] LostWanderer 4 points 7 months ago

I'll let you stare at the stars and imagine a better world then. 😂

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It really is bizarre that they did Apple Maps before an Apple Search.

[–] LostWanderer 2 points 7 months ago

I don't know, I think they wanted that Google money so much they didn't bother! It might have been in the cards, but perhaps Google beat them to the punch and evaporated their desire to create a search engine. Search engines are likely not a business that Apple wants to get too involved in as well, that's something to consider. Sometimes it's better to use what is already out there and not sink too much capital in something so uncertain. I doubt Apple would've seen a serious amount of success with Google being the top dog in search.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Firefox is open source, we don't need Mozilla.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Who exactly is going to pay for it's development in their stead? Developing firefox is an enormous ongoing technical project akin to building the Linux kernel. Someone has to pay or it won't get done to the standard it needs to be done.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A project as big as Mozilla wouldn't be abandoned. If Mozilla stopped development I guarantee more than one group would fork.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I am sure they would. I am equally sure most would fail without significant funding.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Of course they would, Firefox is a huge project. But that doesn't mean Mozilla is the only organization that can manage it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

And where exactly is that funding coming from?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

And that's why IMO the project should ensmallened. Instead of trying to catch up to everything bloatware internet and Google are doing, Neo Firefox / Neo Mozilla could instead focus on developing a subset that's lean and safe to use (no JS, for example) or even promote and offer first-class support to alternative internets like Gemini (the actual one, not Google's namesquat).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Bro thinks he made a point💀

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you disagree, why not share your opinion instead of just downvoting? Why do you think Mozilla is the only organization capable of supporting Firefox?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

There needs to be a willing organisation with large amounts of funding in the first place because a browser is a full time job.

Also, others have already said why the spirit of RMS can't will a browser into a usable application and I just wanted to meme.

[–] LostWanderer 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Provided that someone with enough skill takes up the mantle of maintaining a fork...I'm sure it will be fine!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Welll yeah, obviously. I wasn't suggesting Firefox would somehow become sentient and develop itself.

[–] LostWanderer 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

ROFL I wasn't suggesting that you were suggesting that. Like any open source project, uh, talent tends to pick up important things that get abandoned. It would be an amusing turn of events, probably in the distant future when AI becomes a thing. That a program can start its own journey of self-improvement. 😂

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I know, I was just being hyperbolic. Not sure why my OC is so downvoted, I'm pretty sure people don't think Mozilla is the only org capable of leading the project.

[–] LostWanderer 1 points 7 months ago

LOL Yeah, I get it...Thus my non-serious response. Who know why people do anything? Personally, I can't downvote, as it seems to be disabled by my current server. There have only been a few times that I've seen a post or comment really need a good old downvote. There are capable orgs out there, for now, I suppose in their perspective it is only Mozilla who could handle it. However, open source code can be read and seen by anyone, so that means there are people out there familiar enough with Firefox to take it on if needs must when the devil drives.