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The no-poo (no shampoo) movement is very real and definitely works for many people (dependant on hair type and oil secretions). Basically, once you stop washing away your natural oils daily, the production normalizes and then a regular rinse with water and occasionally something like diluted soap, lemon juice or apple cider vinegar.
I've met them, I was one, I know them. You wouldn't know unless they told you.
i.e. some sort of (proven) cleaning agent
By occasionally, they mean once a month at most.
Hair only stinks if you get crap in it.
Okay, but it's important for everyone elseto know that they aren't going years without using a cleaning agent like wild animals.
You ever smell an animal's fur? It's not great.
My cats smell just fine. The dog on the other hand...
True, but you aren't a cat. You're an ape.
How do you think an ape smells?
With their nose.
This is a negatively loaded non argument. You're just making the assumption that apes smell bad, but do you actually know that?
An unwashed ape. Probably an odor only another unwashed ape would love.
If you are brushing them often, feeding them good food, and not letting your dog roll in everything, they smell a lot better.
That being said, animals in general do have stronger smelling oils than humans - often for some evolutionarily advantageous reasons.
On the other hand, dogs don't sweat.
And sweat rinses off quite easily.
What about sweat that's been in your hair for 12+ hours? Growing things.
If you don't use some kind of cleansing agent the bacteria is still there.
It doesn't have to be shampoo, lemon juice/vinegar/rain water can kill bacteria because they're acidic, certain scented and essential oils as well are antimicrobial.
The facts don't change, though. You can't just rinse your hair with tap water for a year and expect nothing to grow in it.
Yeah, and then you wash the shit that grows on you off with some kind of cleanser. Otherwise it just keeps growing and makes you stink, and sometimes bad stuff grows in there and makes you unhealthy and itchy.
And for the longest time humanity was kinda stinky. It's normal for animals to smell. Then we figured out how to wash with oils and captured rain water and acidic fruit juices and such, and realized we didn't have to stink.
I'm not going back.
Okay, but my point was they aren’t actually going years without using a cleaning agent. They're using acidic and/or oil based disinfecting cleansers on occasion, because they're not feral. For some reason y'all keep arguing with me about that?
Bathing with cleansers also reduces the instance of fungal and bacterial growth which causes dandruff and acne, which are caused by the immune system responding to the shit growing on your skin. Hence, no-poo still involves other types of cleansers.
If your sweat is growing things in 12 hours, you need a doctor or an exorcist.
Remember, many indigenous people across the world used steam to bath, as the steam and new sweat rinsed off the old sweat quite effectively.
Moisture+Oil+Dead Skin=Bacterial Growth.
Full stop.
Which is why y'all are occasionally washing with lemon juice or vinegar or certain oils, because that actually disinfects.
Uhm, no? That's quite a leap you made there.
For a normal human with no health problems affecting their oil production/smell, if you aren't using shampoo/conditioner to constantly strip the oils from your hair, you very quickly stop overproducing oil.
Bedsheets and pillows should still be washed regularly, since they definitely get covered in excess skin oils/grime/etc.
But as long as you are caring for your hair in other ways like brushing daily and keeping it away from food/grease/mud/etc, using soap isn't necessary unless you actually soil it - rinsing is enough to get rid of sweat buildup.
Obviously, if you are working something like a trade job, its not possible to avoid debris, grime and other things and you need to wash your hair more, but an office job? Retail? Just brush and rinse regularly, and your hair will smell and look just fine.
Fuck off troll.
That's what a troll is, yeah. You ignored everything they said and then you repeated your boring joke ("whats next... some stupid false equivalency?") without addressing what they said about shampooing hair. It's like your whataboutism is indeed trolling.
Oh my sides, so funny
No, you! Clearly!
The only people saying you should use shampoo daily are the shampoo makers. Most people can get away with once a week.
You can also clean your hair with conditioner or even rose water in between instead of soaps or vinegar. See the curlygirl subreddit for details about safer hair products that won't mess up curl patterns
You all smell, sorry.
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