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[–] [email protected] 46 points 8 months ago (1 children)

the guy who:

  • moved the American embassy to Jerusalem
  • has never once uttered the words "cease fire"
  • has never lamented any Palestinian deaths at all
  • reversed US's position on Israeli settlements in Palestine

yeah, more.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (5 children)

So just like what is happening now.

  • won't hold israel accountable for war crimes
  • won't allow UN to step in
  • continue to keep aid from going in

Again how can it get worse for those in Gaza?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If you genuinely don't think a Trump Presidency could make the situation any worse, you have no right to talk over anyone who's actually been paying the miniscule-est amount of attention it would take to know better.

Signed, a Palestinian American.

Fuck your privileged ass trying to justify letting us burn.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Try me. How does it get worse than famine, constant bombings, plague, and now polio.

Ignoring what's happening now doesn't help anything.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (2 children)

America joining in because Trump doesn't think the jews are finishing the job fast enough?

West Bank being fully annexed and the 200,000 Palestinians who've been able to hold on thus far being deported to Gaza for more bombings or to Jordan where the royal family was already selling them out even before a civil war broke out over it leading to the king's assassination?

Trump intentionally provoking war in the entire region because his followers are part of a fucking death cult and think it'll cause the biblical battle of Armageddon and make their sky daddy come home?

Evangelicals convincing Trump to begin a program to settle christians in the region to refound the crusader kingdom of Jerusalem?

Have you fucking read any of Project 2025, use your damn imagination and odds are they've already come up with even worse and adopted it as official platform policy.

Get off your soapbox and prevent the greater harm, or quit pretending you have any business calling yourself an ally while being a whiny wilted little cunt ass about how it's everyone else's job to make you want to for your own feel goods.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Get off your soapbox and prevent the greater harm, or quit pretending you have any business calling yourself an ally while being a whiny wilted little cunt ass about how it’s everyone else’s job to make you want to for your own feel goods.

Great rebuttal there

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

This guy's read project 2025

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

you don't have to ignore what's happening now to imagine many ways it could get worse.

ever heard of things like concentration camps and mass executions?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That is what's happening there...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How would you describe them being moved into specific areas, bombed and starved?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sde_Teiman_detention_camp

"Multiple released Palestinian detainees have testified they and others, including children, were subjected to rape, gang-rape, other forms of sexual violence as well as psychological and physical torture by both male and female Israeli soldiers and medical staff."

"In one highly publicized incident, leaked CCTV footage showed Israeli soldiers gang raping a Palestinian detainee with a metal rod that caused him serious injuries to his anus and lungs."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Simple. It's as bad as it is now despite Biden's administration delaying arms, prohibiting aid being sent to illegal settlers, and constantly pushing for a peace deal. A Trump administration wouldn't bother with any of that.

Imagine how bad it would be with Trump patting Netanyahu on the back the whole time, shovelling arms over there as fast as the grift would allow, and subsidizing the settlements (now not illegal if the UN knows what is good for it). Precision munitions? Why bother when you could just carpet MOABs the whole district?

See now how it will be worse?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Do you think it’ll get better for those in Ukraine if Trump became king?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah those people aren't dying in the right region of the world for you to care about I guess

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

but what about this other thing

So no actual argument against Gaza genocide?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Weren’t you saying the two parties are the same?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So is that the only thing you’ll consider when you go to vote?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

thanks to the electoral college my presidential vote doesn't matter.

down ballot is different story,

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That’s the second time you’ve dodged a direct question.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

saying my vote doesn't matter if I vote isnt' one

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

So is that the only thing you’ll consider when you go to vote?

I didn’t ask if it would matter or not but you dodged that question.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Again how can it get worse for those in Gaza?

this isn't complicated. more of literally everything.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

What's worse than a genocide we're allowing to happen...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

you are either supremely naive or a blatant trump shill. Israel still has many cards left to play in the genocide deck like cultural reprogramming, concentration camps, and mass executions.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

everyone I don't like is a trump supporter

get a new line.

So it gets worse by what's already happening?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

no, I said you are either naive OR a trump shill. if you say you are honestly not a trump shill I will take your word, and stand by the statement that you're supremely naive.

So it gets worse by what’s already happening?

get a new line.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

I honestly don't give a shit what a genocide supporter thinks

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You have the right to ask how things get better for Palestinians if Harris takes office. While you're at it please take time to ask how do things get better for Americans if trump takes office. The US president doesn't just set the tone for Palestine. They have influence all over the world.

If Harris wins and the day after the election Isreal signs a treaty won't you just think for a second what that means

Edit: at the very least acknowledge bibi would like nothing more then to see donald trump in the white house, coward.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

BUT WHAT ABOUT

The top level comment this is all from is

Lemmy: bOth PArTiES ARE zIoniSt gEnociDERS!

None of your argument is refuting that.

Then again not expecting much in a meme community*****___*

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

How dare I ask what Americans will do as the result of an American election.

Edit: why are Palistian lives in the hands of a foreign nation to begin with?

Edit2: American hands. Sorry if you haven't brushed up on your history but our track record is not great friend. You want to see America do better? It's starts by not being ambivalent about every other political issue going on in this nation.

Also it's fine if you hate America, if you hate everything we stand for; you hate Kamala and you would like to see me piked personally but have the decency to look me in the eyes when you impale me. I'll see right past you.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Also it’s fine if you hate America, if you hate everything we stand for. You hate Kamala and you would like to see me piked personally but have the decency to look me in the eyes when you impale me. I’ll see right past you.

way to do unfounded personal attacks.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Was that personal? I was just asking the question.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

you hate Kamala and you would like to see me piked personally but have the decency to look me in the eyes when you impale me

How the fuck would you take that?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry that was a clause to the previous statements. Not sure if my grammar is correct but that was posed as a hypothetical.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It sure as hell doesn't read as a hypothetical.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Apologies. Wouldn't hurt to say you don't feel that way, though.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure you can use your imagination.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

amazing rebuttal