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can you list a few lies in the debate from Harris? not that i don't believe you. just haven't followed her enough to scrutinize.
Well if we allow for "Donald Trump" to also include his businesses, which he proudly indicates he has direct leadership in...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2016/live-updates/general-election/real-time-fact-checking-and-analysis-of-the-first-presidential-debate/fact-check-has-trump-declared-bankruptcy-four-or-six-times/
The statement is true, per the specifications I allowed. I never indicated any value assessment as you focused on. That's not the point
Edit, to address the goalpost move: as a DA she certainly would have been in charge of staffing an office and had many humans in jobs. More than zero. So that's not true
Her office would have designated the need for positions and filled them. They would have had a budget and worked within it to staff.
Another goalpost move on p/l.
My original involvement was to fact check the bankruptcy claim, not discuss the value or issues with bankruptcy. The goal posts were moved to bring up Harris being a long time government employee. I spent replies discussing how.the differences are largely semantic, but that's literally besides my original point, and you are free to have your opinion on government work, because it's not what I'm here for anyway.
Trump, as leader of his businesses, DID file bankruptcies, as the article describes.
Facts indeed. I provided a source of the bankruptcies for companies that he was the leader of, as I specified.
Edit Any discussion of the consequences of those bankruptcies or the validity of candidates based on their business background is outside of the scope, and a goalpost move.
As I stated in my comment, he takes direct leadership in his businesses and his businesses filed. Contesting this point is not goalpost moving and would have been meaningful discussion, yesterday. Arguing about her business background has nothing to do with my original comment. I'd recommend to read the article, which is not from this year, and discusses the situation about his bankruptcy situation.
Bankruptcies are not "common" for successful business folks, but they do happen.
She has worked as a public servant in a legal capacity, which we can certainly agree is important for a modern society. A president should also be well versed in such things, which trump is not. So, on that basis they break even. Weather you agree with her policy or approach, you have to accept that she has worked for the government, and therefore the furtherance of the nation. You may believe her approach was not to your liking, but I'm thankful people work in governmental, public roles too. I think such people are completely valid candidates for higher office.
it came off to me that her opinion had changed on fracking, being a politician in America is not won through honesty. inverters must see you as profitable, money is in oil. i have heard Donaald has filed bankruptcy i had to make sure and looked it up i'd like to see your source on this.
For a politician to take the stance of anti fracking would be political suicide. Thanks to Republicans money is speech , its become an incestuous game.
Would you say Harris's lie is as bold as trumps? One is splitting hairs the other is a fairy tail that is made to create division.
I think your missing the point, we're talking about Harris being a liar. And I am asking even though I don't see her flip as a lie. But for the sake of of it we'll say she's lying. Is her lie as bold as trumps?
Anyway CNN did a great job combing through the debate and fact checking here's an article/video about it
I don't know too much about the troops in America, maybe they are all out or none or a few, statically incorrect I can forgive with margins of error.
Putting out facebook hit pieces strongly tide to polarisation I expect to hear from my boomer parents is ridiculous. This man is running to be the most powerful man in america and he can't disseminate truth from fiction from such an incredibly flawed source. I wonder what kind of sourcing does he do in his day to day for the rest of his information.
really,so you believe his claim that migrants are eating pets? yes or no. and i am not asking in nuance. this is a strait and very serious question as the idea was put forward in a presidential debate.
but trump knows truth from fiction. this must be true?